How U.S. gun ownership became a ‘right,’ and why it isn’t

[burnt]

foragefarmer, you keep saying that it is important to save lives by keeping guns out of the hands of people.

If you are really concerned about saving lives, then you should be concerned about the fact - and very Canadian problem - of alcohol related deaths which occur at a rate of 10 higher than gun related homicides.

Or are you hyper-selective in your efforts to save lives? Do you need to have someone close to you killed by an impaired driver before you will care?

There is no diversion on my part, but a gross inconsistency on yours.

The reason it concerns me as a Canadian is that we once again have a bleeding heart government in power and PM Kardashian has already voiced his intention of bringing back emotionally-driven, intrusive and USELESS gun control measures.

[foragefarmer]

Burnt

Don't put words in my mouth, of coarse I'm against drinking and driving. Don't start judging ! I hate to admit, but when I was younger I was dumb enough to have done it. Have you ever driven under the influnence Burnt? Be careful before you get on that soap box of yours!!

Great debate, and will pick it up later in the week.

[burnt]

Now, finally, we are getting somewhere, foragefarmer! You said that you are against drinking and driving - quite reasonable and especially so since it is responsible for 10x more deaths than gun homicides.

But you are not against the use of alcohol, as I am not either. And we likely agree that there is a proper time and place for it, right? And we likely agree that everyone has their preference - some like scotch, some like wine and then there are the beer drinkers...lol!

So why then, are you against general ownership of guns of any kind since their judicious use does not cause anyone harm, and their indiscriminate use is responsible for 1/10th of alcohol-related deaths?

I am just trying to understand the paranoia about a very minor problem when you are relatively silent about a real problem. I believe the expression is straining a gnat and swallowing a camel.


And for the record, I have never in my life driven a vehicle after having something to drink. But then I drink very, very little so it's kind of a non-starter for me, if you will pardon the expression!.