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    Western Canadian farmers strongly defended in Geneva

    Winnipeg – In a meeting in Geneva, Switzerland today, CWB representatives told Stuart Harbinson, Chairman of the World Trade Organization (WTO) agricultural negotiations, that the farmers of Western Canada strongly object to the draft agreement that was released last month.

    The proposal targets western Canadian farmers’ grain marketing system while virtually ignoring the bloated, trade-distorting subsidies embraced by some of Canada’s competitors.

    “This proposal doesn’t level the playing field for farmers,” said Larry Hill, farmer-elected director from Swift Current, Saskatchewan and head of the CWB’s delegation. “It only serves to punish western Canadian farmers for working together and competing successfully in international markets.”

    Hill noted that, if fully implemented, the draft agreement would result in the elimination of the CWB by stripping it of its three foundations: price pooling, government guarantees and the single desk.

    For example, one requirement would ensure that CWB exports "do not take place at a price less than the price paid (by the CWB) to domestic producers". This would effectively prohibit the CWB from using price pooling since a pooled price necessarily includes sales both above and below the final price.

    Furthermore, by targeting organizations like the CWB that are addressed under Article XVII of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, Harbinson’s draft agreement goes beyond the terms of the current Doha round of trade negotiations.

    Hill stressed that numerous investigations, challenges and academic studies over the last decade have upheld the CWB’s status as a fair trader.

    Hill said the CWB delegation appreciated the opportunity to provide Harbinson with an overview of how the CWB operates. He highlighted the fact that the CWB returned all sales revenue, less costs, directly to farmers and that it was a farmer-controlled organization.

    “We had a frank and open discussion which we look forward to continuing in the future,” he said.

    The CWB will continue to work with the Government of Canada, which has to prepare an official response to the draft agreement. The original deadline for the final draft was March 31, 2003, however it is widely believed it will take until September 2003 to reach agreement.

    #2
    Charlie;

    I know for a fact, that as an Alberta farmer... I strongly object to the CWB speaking on my an my farm's behalf... spending my money out of the pooling accounts... when I am forced to pay for this bunch of misguided people that I disagree with totally on this point.

    Is the Alberta Government going to balance the CWB position... and defend our right to have "market choice" for Alberta grain farmers before the WTO like the CWB just did?

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      #3
      Tom: very good point you make. If the CWB supports can get a meeting with the WTO. It would only be fair that opponents of the CWB should also get a hearing.

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        #4
        Fellas Maybe your Ag minister can split the cost of a Jet ride with Bernard Landry.
        Boone

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          #5
          Boone;

          You are right about one thing...

          From the Global perspective... this situation of Global Media Grandstanding must look rather childish... no matter which side of the issue people stand.

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            #6
            kernel, We are lucky to have the CWB speaking for us at the WTO trade talks. I suspect Canada would not be taken very seriously if a bunch of good ole boys from Albertie showed up to tell them how things should be done from a downhome prespective, even though they have computers and superior marketing skill!!

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              #7
              Henbent;

              This is a simple waste of money... we have negotiators working on Canada's position... if the CWB wanted to hold a video conference with the WTO... fine... talking to CDN and Provincial WTO negotiators should be where this energy is channeled... or is the CWB admitting they have already lost that battle... sure looks like it...

              Can I send you the bill for my farm's part of this extragent CWB waste of our pool account money?

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                #8
                henbent,

                Never underestimate the power of a bunch of boys from the province of Alberta. Just watch a few of the down-home Quebec boys at the negotiation table if you don't believe me. It is individuals who have made a real difference to our world.

                Never underestimate the power of individual farmers marketing from their farm-office either. Some got $60.00/bushel for their flax this year. With the freight paid by the buyer. Your bottom line begins with faith in yourself, although you seem to lack just that.


                We don't need Goodale's hacks speaking for us at any table, let alone a World Table. They will speak for the Government, not farmers. Even at the national level, CWB Directors felt the only way they could even get Goodale's ear was to attend Liberal functions.

                You want and need somebody else to run your business, to tell you when to sell and to add the columns for you. Many of us want to do it for ourselves.

                We have entirely different approaches to life and we cannot do business together and be happy with each other. You might be a Presbyterian, but you would demand, that according to the straw vote of the day that all of us become Presbyterian.

                There seems to be no tolerance in your life philosophy for diversity. You will not be satisfied with a CWB, because you will next want a North American Wheat Board, and then a World Wheat Board. You will want one uniform, one language, one grocery store and one religion.

                And there is no point in trying to convince you otherwise because reason becomes ignored, and laws become overlooked, and finally respect becomes mutually absent.

                Parsley

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                  #9
                  parsley, Yeah you are right, when a bunch of the boys go to the polls and elect a representative of their choice to speak for them, things move forward usually. Just a bunch of boys from Albertie, trying to talk and all giving sound master marketing advice at once, is called a mob. Fortunately we don't have mob rule and will never tolerate it even in this great free nation, the Dominion of Canada. The last time a Canadian mob tried to change things was the October Crisis back when? Changes will/are coming, but they must meet the test of being practical, lawful and common sense beneficial the majority, not just give a leg up to a few, in the right place at the right time.

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                    #10
                    Lawful?

                    Do you want to talk aboutlawful?

                    That's beeen my whole point all along, henbent. Lawful

                    Parsley

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                      #11
                      Henbent; man are you in tough...but you keep going, and You have heard this all before!


                      CWB Don't MISREPRESENT me please!!!

                      If you want the CWB to market your grain and take the average prices good for you. I hope they treat you well.

                      Just appreciate the fact that some people would not need or want to operate under the control of CWB (in it's present form) if given the oppertunity.

                      That's fine with me ...why not you?
                      berwick

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                        #12
                        Hentbent

                        3 of your comments about the CWB.
                        Practical-yes 60 years ago during the second world war it was practical to ration grain because we were at WAR...

                        Lawful- Is it lawful to send farmers to jail for marketing their own grain...

                        Common sense-again 60 years ago it made common sense to have control of wheat, to feed the men and women overseas,because we were at War...

                        The board should have been disbanded 60 years ago and we wouldn't have the problems today. And their are fewguys in Sask. who think like a few farmers in Alberta....

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                          #13
                          Henbent: all them good old mob boys wrote you off with alot more diplomacy then I would allow time or pretty words for.
                          Are you left handed as well because your brain is sure leaning left. Oh no there I go again making unfounded assumptions of my fellow farmer.

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                            #14
                            kernel, The law of the jungle has to apply, is that correct? Will we have an orderly marketing system, designed and run by grain companies, railroads, and local Co-0ps? BE CAREFUL what you ask for, you just might get it! Believe it or not at one time, as a young man I leaned far to the right, believed in capital punishment, conservative politics skrip and save, Alberta has the best education system in the world. But as I aged,travelled, lived and worked in other places, like the Left coast it became apparent that AB doesn't have all the answers. I guess I am lucky that our farm is subsidized each month by a fat Gov't pension, I have the freedom to farm. I feel very fortunate not left handed. Who do you think made this possible?

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                              #15
                              Henbent;

                              I notice you came back from the Left Coast... could it be that it was so expensive to live...

                              that the prosperity of Alberta looked better than the politics and wild spending of a socialist gov. that made it untolerable for even you to remain?

                              So why should we commercial grain farmers want the same thing you chose to leave... the left coast... because it was obvious even to you..... that what was happening was not sustainable?

                              You had the right to come back here... Can you be fair and allow us the privelege to exist without being bled to death too?

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