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[henbent]

TOM4CWB, The reality is that you and I disagree on what is good for the country. In your opinion, greed is good and to heck with everything else. On my farm a strong, orderly, market system, based on integrity and knowledge of the world marketplace is essential and vital.

[henbent]

kernel, Are you still there watching everyone? What is the matter with quoting a bit of case law now and then? Furstrating I know, but one has to remember that every story has two sides. The law is not Black/White, in each and every case, there is a lot of Grey area. Have you noticed lately that the PC's in AB, are always clamping down, tightening up, getting tough with going to enforce. They generally sound like Naz- stormtroopers that are running amuck!! Sound familiar to you?

[ianben]

henbent
Why do you see no problem with large quantities of unpriced grain in the hands of a broker/seller, your words?

How can CWB market efficiently when Canadian farmers produce so irratically?

Is CWB's job to make sure your bins are empty at harvest even if that means selling below your cost of production?

Why cant cash pricing and pooling be offered by CWB in the same way the rest of the trade offer me this choice?

I can cash price or pool anything I produce why do Canadian farmers not have this right?

Just what is this extra that your ace in the hole delivers?

[TOM4CWB]

Henbent;

I disagree that what I am asking for is based at all on greed... in fact I am asking for the opposite.

I am simply asking for my neighbour to have the right to sell or contract his farm's grain to the buyer of his choice... on the terms of sale that this neighbour deems to be in the best interests of his farm amd family.

I am sick of dealing with a pooling account... that you say makes you more money... and this in turn prevents my neighbour and myself from having reasonable terms and conditions for the sale of our grain... to make life more profitable for you... at the expense of my neighbour's farm and mine.

If you come to me and we choose to market together... and we can work out a reasonable contract that is win win for all of us... great.

But for you to insist that I should go to jail... so you can take life easy and not look after your own marketing responsibilities... and then to tell me I am the greedy one... is at least unfair!

[TOM4CWB]

Henbent: Lay down on the couch. Now how long has it been that you have had this fear of the truth. You refuse to answer everyones questions. You bring up unrelated case law. If you are sold on the CWB give us answers to our questions. Show us prove of the premium marketers abilities to get me the best price. Why all the foreign millers are so happy to deal with board should raise some suspicion of getting the best price in the world. Because of the CWB all DA producers missed an opportunity to price their wheat at $9.00/bus. last fall. On a normal crop year that little problem with pool accounting and single desk selling will cost me over $150,000 in income. Even in the last drought year it has cost me $20.000 so you can force your CWB on me. I'am tried of trying to convince people like you of the great injustice the CWB does to the freedom of producers in Western Canada.

But what do I know I'am just a jerk that build a 2000 acre farm in the last 30 years out of a $20,000 grub stake.

Your not Art Macklin are you?

[henbent]

kernel, TOM4CWB, ianben, In other words GREED is good in your neighbourhood. This proboard,antiboard position is all a matter of prespective. That which works for you doesn't necessarily work for us or our neighbours. ianben, commodities are big, bulky and expensive to ship at the best of times, the CWB makes their movement happen in an orderly way. We all share the expense. I trust the CWB is marketing our grain in a fair legal manner. kernel, so the law only works for you and yours, WRONG. By the way I am not Art, guess again!!

[parsley]

Actually henbent, you have indicated to us, repeatedly, that the reason you like the single desk is because, you claim, it makes you more money.

You want expenses to be divied up because... you claim it will get more money.

You live in an area where, you claim, transportation expenses become a burden, so you want CWB involvement, because you believe.....you'll end up with more money.

You want the Selling specialists at the CWB to act on your behalf, because you claim they will get you more money.

And then you accuse the farmers, who disagree with your personal ideology, of being greedy, with the underlying inference, as well as direct statements, that you, of course, are not.

You need to develop some consistency in your ideology, henbent. Either you are greedy or you are not. You can't claim you are not greedy and everyone else is, if the primary reason you give for supporting the CWB, is that you get more money.

After all, you don't want all the greedy farmers out here to think you are both greedy and a liar, do you henbent?.

Parsley

[henbent]

parsley, So you think I'm a liar, well I'll tell you something, at least I'm not a mushroom growing in the dark and being fed the BS, that you guys are shovelling. Making money is not being greedy, 5 - 10 cent marketing on the other hand, could be deemed as chiseleing and that is what I think your gang is, a bunch of cheap chiselers, intent on lining your pockets at the expense of the rest.

[TOM4CWB]

Henbent;

If I need to make a direct contract... with an end user of my Wheat or Barley,...

shouldn't this be allowed if I have the work ethic, skill, take the risk, and deliver what my end user requests, ...directly... without using any of "your" grades..., elevators, or any of your grain handling system anywhere in Canada...

I am asking that I need to able to do this... ...without... having to send you a hunk of my farm through the CWB?

Is this request unreasonable?

[henbent]

TOM4CWB, What about the hunk of my farm that I send to you each year, or is that to insignificant from your point of view to mention. Maybe you guys should put your money where your mouth is, organize a group to travel around, invite farmers to say a nice dinner and present your views, buy us a beer or two and we might even agree with what you are preaching. Sounds like a good deal to me, after all you fellows are apparently losing 100's of thousands of dollars each year. Maybe the AB Gov't would kick in and help your cause!! I'd attend.