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    #25
    Cotton, are you going to change anything? Change models?

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      #26
      Yes expo west. Good god I've seen some things but nothing more obvious then this. A man can't change the waves only catch them.

      Mark these words,what ever you do your produce will be traced back

      Right or wrong it's what people want

      Should have followed Pars a decAde ago dammit

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        #27
        Tom Just give me what I need. You know what enough is dont you . Just a little bit more.

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          #28
          So, cotton, I was was organic, and working on processing and branding a small part of my farm production probably through an online Eco,mercy store, do you think that would be successful?

          Kind of like the experiment Klause did, selling cleaned bagged wheat on eBay a few years ago.

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            #29
            e commerce

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              #30
              along time ago i made a wish,just to see the truth,what i wouldn't give to take it back,the self hatred is unbearable

              Hobby,take it or leave it,the north american organic guys are about to cash in and reap,in my opinion,i need to get in contact with you privately and anyone else.

              The war is over,we lost

              Bad news is hard to take

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                #31
                Cotton, I can appreciate the fact it is a growing trend but unless prices arbitrage more between conventional and organic I think organic will always be reserved for people who can afford it.

                Hungry people won't care which system produced it as long as they can afford it.

                If the majority of Producers choose to convert to organic the premiums will erode. The more people who convert the less conventional produced food...less food period, which would bode well for producers who chose to remain conventional.

                Probably room for everyone.

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                  #32
                  Farm,yes you may be right but....

                  We now have an 80% penetration rate in africa with cell phone use?So a bloated starving kid has more info at his finger tips then the president of the united states did in 96?

                  Always breakdown the paradigms in your head

                  more things will be created in the next few years then ever created before,thats not me,thats ray kurzweil who heads up r@d at google now alphabet ,old guy,blow your mind guy,has been right about everything for 60 years,look him up on you tube

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                    #33
                    There is room for everyone. There has to be some balance between organic and conventional.
                    When the economy collapses, organic premiums will disappear. I have lived it. So if you plan to change to organic, you had better want to BE organic for more reasons than the money.
                    I have seen a lot of half crops and only slight premiums over conventional grains.

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                      #34
                      We are ****ed

                      the big oil guys laughed at me to when i said oil would fly by 27$ well over a decade ago,some of those debts couldn't be paid out of vanity

                      we need a restructure of our brand,i nominate Larry weber or kevin hursh same guy,(just kidding larry old joke,seriously love what you have done for ag)we need to front run this,call it semi organic or responsible ag or what ever

                      the world is moving against us

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                        #35
                        Only the affluent countries.
                        The less affluent will still buy efficiently grown high volumes for lower prices. They need that kind of food.

                        Don't stop believ'n

                        Don't sell your sprayer yet!

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                          #36
                          Cotton, If your looking for a b.s. Session you can email me hobbyfarmer365@gmail.com.

                          I am usually kind of farming on teachers hours 8:30 pm -3:50pm

                          I quick call into an Expo West attendee confirmed the industry is bringing in organic Grains and health foods for exactly half the price I can do it in Canada.

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