11 tons mustard missing.

[GOODRUM]

After picking up a B-train load of mustard I had ran through a Color sorter I am short 11 tons .
Can anyone suggest who I can contact to get some answers on this? The cleaner is not offering any reasonable explanation.

[wmoebis]

I have had several calls on this same issue. Sorry but if your cleaner isn't licensed with the CGC your are on your own.

Lots of farmers aren't catching these issues as they never weight out their dockage so they have no idea of what they are taking home after cleaning.

If Mr Ritz would have listened to his own review and opened a Grain Farmer Advocacy Office they could have been given the legal power to investigate issues like this and lots of other issues that are happening.

But self regulation is the best for the industry. Good luck and keep us posted you are not alone and others would like to hear what can be done.

[farmaholic]

My last experience.
Grew yellow mustard and had a cleaver problem.
Sat on it to speculate.
Thought I should turn it, so I decided to have it cleaned at a local cleaner- no spiral, indents, gravity, or color sorter, just seives. To take out the small cleavers....just trying to polish it up a bit.
Nothing is perfect, a bit of good mustard came out along with the small cleavers and weed seeds and chaff but the biggest cleavers stayed in.
Still graded a four.
Got 60 cents a pound.
Deliver soon.
I thought about color sorting but not real accessible. Thought I would leave it up the the buying precessor to clean and hope some benefit gets passed back to me. Maybe you will get a better price.
But a 25% cleanout seems extreme.
Did you get your screenings back or did yiu say you wanted your own back?
I will check to see what my clean-out was.

[GOODRUM]

That's with 5 tons of screenings included.
The cleaned works out to 38% clean out,
And it's still not making a 4. It had 6.5% canola going in and still more than 1% canola after 2 or 3 passes over the Color sorter.

[oneoff]

Some unique twists with yellow mustard.

Maybe the only "grain" where the "dockage" all but determines the grade. A tenth of a percent of grasshopper specks (allegedly grasshopper shit) may take 25% perfect seed out to get it a No. 1.

As if that worthless 25% wouldn't make ideal seed for someone; also remembering that it has that alleged about 0.1% fertilizer already added.

And as if there isn't such a thing as blending

And as if any cleaning facility doesn't have some use for "dockage" and the scalpings that producers are told are worthless.

Just shows that the more sophisticated and based on business a farming operation becomes....the more things sta exactly the same overall.


And to be fair, the oil industry treats its partners and business associates in exactly the same fashion (with seemingly rare exceptions of course.)

Maybe its a matter of who you deal with; and from my experience with mustard deals; those rare fair buyers did exist at least several years ago. but

[farmaholic]

3556 bu delivered
3247 bu clean
309 bu dockage--cleavers, shrunk mustard, tiny weed seeds, chaff, anything big and of course a wee bit of good mustard.
Dockage sold to a terminal for $70/tonne....I even know where they hid it.

8.69% clean-out.

All mustard doesn't get sold into the whole seed market so you have to wonder why a bit of inseperables is so detrimental. At least the price spread between grades isn't ridiculous.

What are they quoting you?

I'm sure there will be some minor dockage when mine gets delivered.

I like the guys I sell to.

[farmaholic]

Regarding the missing tonnes.

There has to be an explanation where 11 tonnes went. If you picked up both screenings and clean and your grain and screenings were always kept seperate.... where is the rest except for what would be deemed as reasonable loss/shrinkage....but about 25% is absolutely extreme.

[GOODRUM]

I was told the 11 tons were sent to a feedlot, it was said to be worthless

[farmaholic]

I am assuming you didn't know this cleaner?
Ever heard of them before?
Was there contact and open dialogue during the cleaning process?
Were you warned during the process that there is going to be heavy clean-out and given a chance to put the brakes on the process?

[GOODRUM]

He was referred to me by more than one person as the best guy for the job .
The cleaning process for one load has been extremely painful with poor communication, it was dropped off January 28 and finished March 14.
When I called requesting progress updates I was treated poorly. I was told there was some mechanical troubles that caused some delays.

[bucket]

Are you sure you got your own mustard back?

[Rareearth]

-Are you organic or equivalent ?
-What do you feel the dockage was?
-What was the foreign material and what %'s?
-Why is it still a number 4?
-What was the deal or contract, cleaning price and who's dockage, price paid for dockage?
- the cleaner must have used the wrong screen sizes, or didn't have the right ones