So who's Gona pay for all this ???

[furrowtickler]

The theme song here will be 'money for nothing '

[fjlip]

Do you think more money will fix Attawapiskat? I doubt it, but "purpose" might! An idle mind and body are................ . If there is nothing there or never will be....move to where something is. Is there anything stopping them from going back to 100% traditional ways if the "state of dependency" they've become accustomed to is harming them. We have a ****ing wreck on our hands and we may have just added to the pile-up.

What are the solutions? Because the status quo sure isn't working. I've said it before, what took a century and decades to create won't be fixed in a few years....segregation instead of assimilation was a mistake. No one said they had to give up every thread of their culture and tradition in the process of assimilation and by the way they seem to now only want to rekindle some of it....which is fine but constant concessions and special treatment?

Break the cycle...for you and your children's sake.

Did you catch Jean Chretien's solution, not repeated enough in media...move them all off the ISOLATED settlements because there is NOTHING to do!!! He was Trudeau senior's Indian Affairs minister, actually wanted to CAN the Indian Act...chiefs all said NO, what to be little kings.

[Horse]

Who makes the rules? who writes the cheques? who decides who gets the money? Sure funny how the color of your skin,or postal address decides who you are and are entitled to.
Tell me there isnt whites screwingt the gov just as bad take for instance public lands, irrigation progects to enhance your friends. I think in this country everyone is just taking thier share ,and intitled to it by god. Dont mess with my largess.

[wakopa]

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Subject: Fw: The RCMP, not Harper, should be meeting with Chief Spence



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Subject: FW: The RCMP, not Harper, should be meeting with Chief Spence




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Subject: The RCMP, not Harper, should be meeting with Chief Spence
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:14:16 -0600







Subject: Fw: The RCMP, not Harper, should be meeting


Why don't we hear more about this side of it???
Audit nightmare: The RCMP, not Harper, should be meeting with Chief Spence
The RCMP, not Harper, should be meeting with Chief Spence

By Ezra Levant ,QMI Agency
First posted: Monday, January 07, 2013 08:51 PM EST | Updated: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 04:54 AM EST
A new audit of the Attawapiskat Indian reserve was released Monday. It was shocking.
The accounting firm of Deloitte randomly chose 505 financial transactions, between April 1, 2005 and Nov. 30, 2011, to review. They found “81% of files did not have adequate supporting documents and over 60% had no documentation of the reason for payment.”
A lot of that money was supposed to go to housing. Attawapiskat is the reserve where some houses have leaky roofs, poor insulation, broken plumbing and are generally unfit for habitation. But Deloitte wrote, “There is no evidence of due diligence in the use of public funds, including the use of funds for housing.”
Deloitte can’t find where the money went. But maybe the long list of people on the band’s rich payroll might know, starting with Theresa Spence, the chief, or her boyfriend, Clayton Kennedy, who just happens to be the town’s financial manager. He bills the band $850 a day to manage their finances.
In fact, there are 21 politicians on the band payroll. Plus plenty of full-time staff. But Deloitte didn’t find that reassuring: “Attawapiskat First Nation did not provide us with any job descriptions for individuals who are involved in the financial management of funding agreements.”
The band doesn’t even produce annual budgets. High school football teams have budgets. The band council doesn’t keep regular minutes of their meetings, either. Ordinary band members can’t find out what their politicians are doing. (Spence, in a news release Monday, dismissed the audit’s release as “no more than a distraction from the true issue” and said it was an attempt to “discredit” her.)
So what does this all look like, if you pour $100 million through such a system, as the federal government has done since 2005? Well, here are a few of the findings in Deloitte’s sample of 505 transactions.
In September, 2011, at the height of the housing crisis, they spent $4,333 on breakfast supplies. No documentation. No contract, no invoice.
In April of 2011, a “consultant” got paid $303,256. The identity of the consultant is not known. The documentation is incomplete.
What kind of consultant did Attawapiskat need for $303,256 last year? In the middle of a housing crisis? Was it a roofing consultant? Someone to develop a roofing strategy? Is that why they didn’t have money to actually hire a roofer?
There are many of these employment contracts — often six figures, always anonymous.
Another common one is “other purchases.” One was for $87,150. Auditor’s note: “Occurrence questionable.” Was anything even bought? Who knows?
Countless money was spent on legal fees. One payment was for $68,910 — lawyer unknown, no supporting documentation. Was it band business? Or maybe someone’s divorce?
What about a real estate deal three years ago for
$1.1 million? But it’s an Indian reserve. The band already owns all the land. And the vendor is anonymous. There was zero supporting documentation. Was this $1.1 million property deal even in Attawapiskat? Or was it in Florida?
There are a flurry of these property purchases — all secret, no street address or even a general geographic location given.Eighty-one percent of the files the auditor checked are this way. Not 1% or 2%. This isn’t an error. It’s a way of life.
If the people involved had Italian names and were from the Montreal construction industry, or French-Canadian names from Montreal ad agencies, instead of Indian “consultants” from Attawapiskat, there would be resignations and criminal charges flying.
But it would be racist to ask tough questions of Chief Spence and her boyfriend. And, she’s so close to starving herself, it would be mean, too.
Is Stephen Harper really going to meet with her on Friday? Shouldn’t the RCMP do so first?




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[wakopa]

Look up , ezralevant on the attawapiskat scam. U get an idea how much money goes there . I'm just a dumb farmer but I got a thought here, how about with there free Ed they learn to build there own houses , clean them , teachers any trade that is available , just a thought .

[farmaholic]

"Will more money fix Attawapiskat? ....I doubt it."

[Horse]

I still wonder who is at fault, My guess is the DIA as they are the ones essuing the cheques and if they feel they are not being spent properly then they have the power to change.
Why would the elite in the band change alls well to them that recieve same as in the public sector.

[boarderbloke]

Fool horse,,,don't you know that one of the first order business that Turdou passed with his majority was to scrap the The First Nations Financial Transparency Act [URL=https://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/faa-lfi/index-eng.asp]read it horse[/URL]
and replaced it with the [URL=http://www.aadnc-aandc.gc.ca/eng/1322056355024/1322060287419]Liberal, turn your eyes away from embezzlement and miss spending plan[/URL]

What have you and your family done over the years to hurt Indians in your district? What slurs did you use or heard your family use to still hold so much white guilt? Why should native politicians be held accountable to their own people as well as Canadian tax payers that provide for them?

[cottonpicken]

The whole system is to far gone.

[MBgrower]

I felt pity watching the metis walking down the stairs of the supreme court with the hands held in air, celebrating the decision as a victory. They seem to not to realize they won the right to be treated just like indians and will likely suffer the same fate as reserve indians, no hope, no future, lives wasted. This was a major step backwards.

[fjlip]

If smart , they would say NO THANKS and go on living like the rest of us, stop looking back we are NOT going there!

[cottonpicken]

When Japan's rates move less then 2% all tax revenue goes to interest cost payment.

Think about that

The entire developed world is nearing that point

Zirp and Nirp are a hail marry that failed it only gave us time by pulling demand forward essentially pulling time forward

I've travelled all over the net been to all sorts of places you have never dreamt.

And I'll tell you. You guys here are the most brilliant. Einstein said something like "common sence is an accumulation of predjudice"or something to the effect

Anyway or hertige or pain or a combination or something else or whatever.

At least you guys get it here.