So who's Gona pay for all this ???

[fjlip]

Just what I thought the share of the pie just got smaller for each one, could be more work for lawyers.
Read somewhere that 40% of French Canadians have a trace of native blood due to last 500 years of settlement/trade/etc... do the math...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$
ding we are BROKE!

[riders2010]

None of our politicians have had balls to deal with this for years. Never mind the Metis we can t afford this bullshit of the full bloods. The gov solution was welfare per kid so guess what happenned? It's created a voting block as well its been out of control for ever this is just another step. Those treaty interpretations were all bullshit from the start. But lawyers and politicians were too busy collecting pay checks instead of doing what was right.

[farmaholic]

I'm getting my DNA checked.

Canada is a stoopid people pleasing nation. Everybody could have a claim for special treatment because of hardship or wrong doing of some sort.

I guess some people are entitled to keep working and paying tax and to pay their and "other's" way. Maybe we should all do less, unfettered Socialism as bad as unfettered Capitslism.

Do you think more money will fix Attawapiskat? I doubt it, but "purpose" might! An idle mind and body are................ . If there is nothing there or never will be....move to where something is. Is there anything stopping them from going back to 100% traditional ways if the "state of dependency" they've become accustomed to is harming them. We have a ****ing wreck on our hands and we may have just added to the pile-up.

What are the solutions? Because the status quo sure isn't working. I've said it before, what took a century and decades to create won't be fixed in a few years....segregation instead of assimilation was a mistake. No one said they had to give up every thread of their culture and tradition in the process of assimilation and by the way they seem to now only want to rekindle some of it....which is fine but constant concessions and special treatment?

Break the cycle...for you and your children's sake.

[farmaholic]

Ever see the TV coverage of people living in the jungle or desert the same way their predecessors did? What is there to show in Canada? Except maybe for the nomadic carribou tribes....the rest seems like a horribly failed social experiment.

This ship doesn't, can't or won't turn fast.

[farmaholic]

Speaking of Pow Wows. I did take in the FNU(First Nations University) Pow Wow in Regina at the beginning of April. I wanted to see.

The Grand Entrance was actually moving, the costumes and such are quite nice.

They got a little political at some points.

The RCMP, Indigenous Veterans, Sask's only MP, and other dignitaries and Elders were in the procession.

They talked about the Sask Indian Institute of Technology, the FNU and the Grads. Missing Indian women(even if it is Indian on Indian violence at times).

I think they want what we have(Oooo--loaded
statement) and are working at empowering themselves through
education to "earn" it.

There is already a generation that has begun breaking the cycle. The children of that generation will hopefully want to continue as well.

In a way its only starting.

[furrowtickler]

Hey - chucky- I know your out there - carbon tax's will be for what exactly???
Sadly we will have 2 choices - or one - dodge tax's or become a politician.
I saw this coming way before election time
#we are screwed

[furrowtickler]

Farma - why is it like that ?
I could go on for hours - but it comes down to parents - end of story.
Most natives have way way more opertunity than the rest of us if they could grab a brain for 5 min

And I know for the spelling freeks in the crowd I did not do so well - don't care - makin a point is all

[sumdumguy]

There was a book of Scrip which listed every Metis name kept in Winnipeg. You were Metis in the sense that land was scripted to each family by the province after the Riel Rebllion. As far as provincial sales tax, we were also told that Metis down East have been exempt from provincial taxes for years now. Can you imagine, when you buy a car, no tax and everything else you buy too - and free education for your kids as well. I'm sure the universities are pleased!

[farmaholic]

Sidebar note: No one should let their spelling or grammar stop them from posting here. It really doesn't matter, good grammar and spelling haven't made me any more money in my lifetime. In fact I hated English in school, some papers I wrote had more red ink corrections in grammar, spelling and punctuation than I care to admit.

Post and post often...

[furrowtickler]

The theme song here will be 'money for nothing '

[fjlip]

Do you think more money will fix Attawapiskat? I doubt it, but "purpose" might! An idle mind and body are................ . If there is nothing there or never will be....move to where something is. Is there anything stopping them from going back to 100% traditional ways if the "state of dependency" they've become accustomed to is harming them. We have a ****ing wreck on our hands and we may have just added to the pile-up.

What are the solutions? Because the status quo sure isn't working. I've said it before, what took a century and decades to create won't be fixed in a few years....segregation instead of assimilation was a mistake. No one said they had to give up every thread of their culture and tradition in the process of assimilation and by the way they seem to now only want to rekindle some of it....which is fine but constant concessions and special treatment?

Break the cycle...for you and your children's sake.

Did you catch Jean Chretien's solution, not repeated enough in media...move them all off the ISOLATED settlements because there is NOTHING to do!!! He was Trudeau senior's Indian Affairs minister, actually wanted to CAN the Indian Act...chiefs all said NO, what to be little kings.

[Horse]

Who makes the rules? who writes the cheques? who decides who gets the money? Sure funny how the color of your skin,or postal address decides who you are and are entitled to.
Tell me there isnt whites screwingt the gov just as bad take for instance public lands, irrigation progects to enhance your friends. I think in this country everyone is just taking thier share ,and intitled to it by god. Dont mess with my largess.

[wakopa]

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From: Earl Pulver <earl@candcrentals.com>
To: Lori Lewis <lorilewis1234@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 8:25:36 AM
Subject: Fw: The RCMP, not Harper, should be meeting with Chief Spence



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Subject: FW: The RCMP, not Harper, should be meeting with Chief Spence




To:
Subject: The RCMP, not Harper, should be meeting with Chief Spence
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:14:16 -0600







Subject: Fw: The RCMP, not Harper, should be meeting


Why don't we hear more about this side of it???
Audit nightmare: The RCMP, not Harper, should be meeting with Chief Spence
The RCMP, not Harper, should be meeting with Chief Spence

By Ezra Levant ,QMI Agency
First posted: Monday, January 07, 2013 08:51 PM EST | Updated: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 04:54 AM EST
A new audit of the Attawapiskat Indian reserve was released Monday. It was shocking.
The accounting firm of Deloitte randomly chose 505 financial transactions, between April 1, 2005 and Nov. 30, 2011, to review. They found “81% of files did not have adequate supporting documents and over 60% had no documentation of the reason for payment.”
A lot of that money was supposed to go to housing. Attawapiskat is the reserve where some houses have leaky roofs, poor insulation, broken plumbing and are generally unfit for habitation. But Deloitte wrote, “There is no evidence of due diligence in the use of public funds, including the use of funds for housing.”
Deloitte can’t find where the money went. But maybe the long list of people on the band’s rich payroll might know, starting with Theresa Spence, the chief, or her boyfriend, Clayton Kennedy, who just happens to be the town’s financial manager. He bills the band $850 a day to manage their finances.
In fact, there are 21 politicians on the band payroll. Plus plenty of full-time staff. But Deloitte didn’t find that reassuring: “Attawapiskat First Nation did not provide us with any job descriptions for individuals who are involved in the financial management of funding agreements.”
The band doesn’t even produce annual budgets. High school football teams have budgets. The band council doesn’t keep regular minutes of their meetings, either. Ordinary band members can’t find out what their politicians are doing. (Spence, in a news release Monday, dismissed the audit’s release as “no more than a distraction from the true issue” and said it was an attempt to “discredit” her.)
So what does this all look like, if you pour $100 million through such a system, as the federal government has done since 2005? Well, here are a few of the findings in Deloitte’s sample of 505 transactions.
In September, 2011, at the height of the housing crisis, they spent $4,333 on breakfast supplies. No documentation. No contract, no invoice.
In April of 2011, a “consultant” got paid $303,256. The identity of the consultant is not known. The documentation is incomplete.
What kind of consultant did Attawapiskat need for $303,256 last year? In the middle of a housing crisis? Was it a roofing consultant? Someone to develop a roofing strategy? Is that why they didn’t have money to actually hire a roofer?
There are many of these employment contracts — often six figures, always anonymous.
Another common one is “other purchases.” One was for $87,150. Auditor’s note: “Occurrence questionable.” Was anything even bought? Who knows?
Countless money was spent on legal fees. One payment was for $68,910 — lawyer unknown, no supporting documentation. Was it band business? Or maybe someone’s divorce?
What about a real estate deal three years ago for
$1.1 million? But it’s an Indian reserve. The band already owns all the land. And the vendor is anonymous. There was zero supporting documentation. Was this $1.1 million property deal even in Attawapiskat? Or was it in Florida?
There are a flurry of these property purchases — all secret, no street address or even a general geographic location given.Eighty-one percent of the files the auditor checked are this way. Not 1% or 2%. This isn’t an error. It’s a way of life.
If the people involved had Italian names and were from the Montreal construction industry, or French-Canadian names from Montreal ad agencies, instead of Indian “consultants” from Attawapiskat, there would be resignations and criminal charges flying.
But it would be racist to ask tough questions of Chief Spence and her boyfriend. And, she’s so close to starving herself, it would be mean, too.
Is Stephen Harper really going to meet with her on Friday? Shouldn’t the RCMP do so first?




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[wakopa]

Look up , ezralevant on the attawapiskat scam. U get an idea how much money goes there . I'm just a dumb farmer but I got a thought here, how about with there free Ed they learn to build there own houses , clean them , teachers any trade that is available , just a thought .

[farmaholic]

"Will more money fix Attawapiskat? ....I doubt it."