Cut worms

[Partners]

Any one spraying for cut worms?
We have way to many on soft/loon shit type soil..Getting some poison for them tomorrow..
Check fields...

[farmaholic]

We only have flax to spray yet and would have to say haven't seen anything that would warrant spraying for them. All of our canola except for 80 acres has lumiderm insecticide on it.

I was wondering if Lumiderm was used every time canola was seeded, would cut worm populations ever increase? Would it clean them out of a canola crop and then be good until the next round of canola(what ever your rotation is)?

[ado089]

They were chewing on barley this year too. We need lindane back for a couple of year to clean up all these bugs that have moved in since it's demise.

[hobbyfrmr]

There must be something you can spray for that.

One of the neighbor's minions was talking how they had to reseed 5 quarters. The minion also tried to describe to the farmer that 6-7 consecutive crops of canola is not good farming practices. The response was, It's only one quarter and its just for experiment.

The conversation turned to the subject that every generation that leaves a farm is to busy with their lives to care about it. Once the old people die, the kids rent it out for the top dollar and don't even bother to pay attention. As long as the cheque is on time!

[Partners]

What effect does rain have on these little turds? Chance of rain for the next 3 days here..Will they drown?

[ado089]

It slows them down moving from plant to plant.

[sumdumguy]

Grass edges are full of cutworms. Maybe cultivation around fields would keep them out.

[ado089]

They're in my smf too. They like loose dirt.

[furrowtickler]

By far the worst on our pea stubble that was worked last fall - loose dirt as well

[BreadWinner]

By far the worst on our pea stubble that was worked last fall - loose dirt as well

Hobbyfarmer, Why do you have to turn a perfectly good topic into another big new farmer jealousy rant. Im sure the hobbyfarms out there have some cutworms as well. Oh ya keep your dam dandilion fuss on your side of the road. Why do these half witt wannabes just look after their own problems and stop complaining. Ive heard it many times these guys are slagging someone they no sooner they need a pull out of the mud or borrow a real swather because they are getting stuck. You should worry about yourself allot more.

[Guest]

partners , we are highly experienced in cutworms , lol . rain does nothing to the bastards. we have had a couple of our classic 3" dumps in a few minutes over the last few years . doesn't even fizz on them . lorsban is the best . we have sprayed lots and lost lots to them over tge years . I see today the lumiderm is still killing them . usually a dead or dying one by the cut off canola

[farmaholic]

So caseih.... do you think that canola treated with lumiderm in rotation once every 3-4 years would keep them at bay? I can't seem to remember us having a problem with them. Nothing significant anyway.

What bugs me is we are supposed to keep stacking costs onto already expensive canola seed already treated with poor ineffective insecticide. But you have to put Helix or Prosper on because it has the disease prevention portion of the treatment in it as well. If you want better insect control you'll have to add the Lumiderm.....until the other seed Cos come up with thier own active ingredient. And mark my words, it won't be cheaper than what we are doing today...buying already treated seed and adding more expense. That will be the new floor price.

[Partners]

So what does Lumiderm cost?

[seabass]

8-9 bucks more per acre. 2 bucks a pound more

[hobbyfrmr]

Breadwinner,

I am not jealous, its just observation.
That was a real conversation I had with an employee of a (not new) big farm. He was just describing that he knows the big boss is cheating rotations on rented land because there is minimal interest in the land and everybody is too busy to really care. As long the the farmer pays on time he is a good guy!