Bang for your buck Fungicides

[crusher]

What do you find gives you the best return on investment with respect to fungicides in your canola, wheat , barley and peas? I've has good luck with Lance on my canola. Not impressed with headline in my peas or wheat. Others?

[farmaholic]

Make yourself familiar with the Trade/Product name, the active ingredients, The GROUP it belongs to. If it contains more than one group for resistance management. How many grams per acre is being applied at label rates.

More than one group will help manage resistance but you're going to pay for it.

You will be surprised how few options there actually are.... lots of similar active ingredients, Group 3, 7, 11 and combinations of those.

You better get some help from Mother Nature when it comes to fusarium in cereals, most you can hope for is suppression according to the product labels. All registered products are Group 3 except Bravo which is an M5. That I'm aware of.

My question would be, are some active ingredients better than others within the same group?

In 2014 we grew "commercial salvage" durum... I doubt multiple fungicide apps could have beaten the environmental pressure. If I was ensured I was going to recoup all the expenses I would consider going all in and maybe applying fungicides more than once, but we all know that is completely delusional. Your profitability is the furthest thing from their minds...

[biglentil]

Farmers as whole need to start thinking outside the chemical box. Maybe the ole Bordeaux Mix with copper sulphate is the answer. Asked my 'sales' agrologist about copper during flowering. She said "No will sterilize the flowers!" Now I really want to try it.

[farming101]

Maybe just a small area to start with?

[freewheat]

Farmers as whole need to start thinking outside the chemical box. Maybe the ole Bordeaux Mix with copper sulphate is the answer. Asked my 'sales' agrologist about copper during flowering. She said "No will sterilize the flowers!" Now I really want to try it.

I am a big believer in strong and long rotations. I have NEVER sprayed a cereal for fusarium, and have NEVER had fusarium downgrading.

Point is, I agree with you big time. It is getting pretty crazy. Neighbor Jim had the plane in spraying for something. Guess I better spray too?

[Guest]

well , we left an 80 test strip in canary without twinline , lost 9 bu an acre . that's 720 bu canary at $13 is $9300 . we also left an 80 ac test strip in flax w/o priaxor and lost about 5 bpa to the tune of $4800 , $14000 lost on 160 ac . canary seed done with weigh wagon , flax just off yield monitor . you could also see a line in both fields and canary had more fus in the sample on the untreated. we have been getting variable results over the years , but that was a kick in the nuts and I didn't think we had a lot of disease pressure last year ! I think it's a necessary evil for where we farm

[farmaholic]

What could you possibly apply that has anti-fungal properties and safe for the crop?

Self inflicted problem brought on by continuous cropping, but I wouldn't want to summer or chem fallow.

[biglentil]

Im doing plenty of testing and non of it from an ag retailer. Except for the control priaxor, folicur, prosaro proline....

[farmaholic]

I don't like the costs per acre out of the boxes for suppression or temporary relief that might require subsequent applications....they say it like its cheap!

[bucket]

Going to the lake after the priaxor is done. They are on their own.

[ado089]

I normally do half rate tilt with herbicide and not much else beyond that. I found once I got my potassium levels in check there was no need for fungicides.

[greybeard]

Look at it as days of protection.
New growth has no protection.
Generally you get about a week.
If the weather goes to a hot dry summer your covered.
If it is humid, showers every night you need more protection.
New chemistry doesn't mean better, just new if you have resistance issues.
If it stops what you are woried about it doesn't matter if it's 5 dollars or 15 dollars.
Always rotate 2nd pass group.
Talk to a potato grower. They have lived with it for generations.

[ry0972]

Anyone ever tank mix Bravo 500 and Tilt 250??
Have about a tank worth of each and was thinking of a test with both on some lentils??