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    #61
    Henbent;

    We had all better hope that Paul Martin doesn't win the leadership of the Liberal Party... cause he is about as big business as is possible... unless they recruited Bill Gates....

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      #62
      TOM4CWB, I guess its time to move on to other subjects, where hopefully I can be more positive and progressive. We could argue this point for years and never sway each other. We will have to agree to disagree on this point for the time being.

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        #63
        Henbent, >> Democracy is a confusing, slow, and sometimes corrupt way of doing things.<<

        I agree with you, democracy is a corrupt way of doing things, especially when it comes to the cwb. As you are aware, landlords are given the right to vote in cwb director elections. I’m sure you agree that a landlord is not a producer, in fact if he is an actual producer he would have a permit book. Why does the cwb continue to allow these land owners to vote? I think so the cwb can skew the vote to ensure the status quo.

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          #64
          Henbent;

          The only way that evil can prevail, is if good people do nothing to prevent it.

          Thanks for an interesting discussion... If the Alberta gov./Fed. gov is wrong... in my estimation...

          I am just as vocal about these issues... as the wrongs happening at the CWB...

          I try not discriminate...!

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            #65
            wedino, I think my answer relative to the landlord's being allowed to vote during CWB elections, is a simple straight forward one. In most cased landlords have a vested interest in how their land is farmed, in that they are often and in a lot of cases, experienced farmers themselves with extensive backgrounds in the ag. Also in some cases, they still have a share of the production. Not all of us are lucky enough to have a cash rental agreement. In other words in a lot of cases they, the old folks still should have a say in whether the CWB continues to be supported or not. Do you not agree if this is the case?

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              #66
              Henbent,

              You support Wheat Board policy to keep demanding the buyback because it supports your political view. You'll smile every time a license gets denied unless the farmer pays the difference between the initial price and the market price. Extortion.

              Yet, you are content to ignore what Parliament legislated.....for the farmer to pay the difference between the price inside and outside Canada.

              Are you not at all interested in the truth and in wrongs being made right?

              Parsley

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                #67
                Henbent;

                I know many people inside and outside the Agricultural community... that have farmed... are wise and are good marketers... are taxpayers and support us directly through Crop Insurance, FIDP, FIAP, the Farm fuel subsidy, NISA, Farm Vehicle Licenses... a long list of many benefits that the urban and rural Alberta taxpayer must pay... when the CWB continues to perform badly and distort our grain markets...

                For instance... not only Canadian grain markets... but international grain markets took exceptional notice of the CWB Grainworld projections... as well as the colapse in the 2003-04 PRO... Canola and Flax... as well as domestic feed grains need not bid for our spring seeding acres... if the CWB base of our grain economy is in depression.

                SO thank the CWB, for using your monopoly, to depress our Alberta prices significantly more than a market choice environment otherwise would!

                With market choice... Select barley contracts at $4.50/bu farm gate prices for next fall, $5.60/bu for #1CWRS 13.5 for next fall...

                Instead we have Producer Pricing options that prevent reasonable risk management... and a bankrupt barley marketing system that encourages import of Corn laced with fusarium...

                SO HENBENT;

                WHy shouldn't all Alberta Citizens have the right to vote in CWB elections...

                I guess they did... and King Ralph has heard loud and clear...

                Enough all ready...LET MY PEOPLE GO.... CWB!

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                  #68
                  Parsley, TOM4CWB, Yes King Ralph is leading the charge, but don't get your hopes up! Ralph, although apparently a farmers friend, is first and foremost a politico, he bends and sways as the wind blows and wants re-election. Ralph's record is not all that great you know, the whinning and complaining, along with a lack of vision often makes us look kind of du-b to other Canadians. As far as representing us before the Courts, wasn't it Ralph who tried to cut judges pay not long ago, and lost the bid. I wonder why our government can no longer win, when they go to Court???? Duh, I'm sure he'll certainly do better when it comes to trashing the CWB. The Ottawa, gang on the other hand don't care what happens to Western Farmers, allowing Lee VANCLIEF to continue to play the role of the BAD, as Min of Ag.

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                    #69
                    Henbent, >>the old folks still should have a say in whether the CWB continues to be supported or not. <<

                    Me thinks, if they don’t possess a permit book, they are not active producers & should not have a say in the operation of the cwb. In other words if they don’t "walk the walk" they can’t expect to "talk the talk".

                    Looking from another angle - they rent their land on a share basis - like 20% or 30% - 33% tops & for that 33% their vote in a cwb director election carries the same weight as the actual producer that holds the permit book. This is not how democracy is spose to work. IMHO

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                      #70
                      Wedino;

                      Did you see that Chairman Ritter isn't having an accountability meeting in Alberta this year...

                      I see however that Director Oberg is having a District 5 meeting in District 4 (SEDGEWICK)... obviously Mr. Oberg was elected by many of his freinds from district 4... Illegally I MIGHT ADD!

                      Isn't it amazing what the CWB can pull off... when they really put their mind to it!

                      Shouldn't someone go to jail over this?

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