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    Wink, Wink, nod Nod... The CWB's Heather Frayne

    Want to see how the CWB REALLY operates?

    Just read it.


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    #2
    Here it is, in all it's glory.


    Canadian Wheat Board: "Our apologies for the awkwardness"

    Background, via a reader: "The Ag minister wrote an op-ed letter in January, wherein he made certain price comparisons on wheat. The CWB is mass mailing prairie newspapers in reply. But instead of trying to directly challenge the comments made by Strahl, the CWB is trying to “correct” the newspaper’s “erroneous price comparisons”. Here’s what happens when one editor points out that the CWB ought to state that Strahl had his numbers wrong. Enjoy!"

    Correspondence with a Saskatchewan weekly newspaper from Heather Frayne, CWB Communications Consultant:


    (1) Heather Frayne original letter:
    Woops. Sent you the wrong letter. Here is the right one. (She had first sent the one intended for the Whitewood Herald).

    Heather Frayne
    CWB communications consultant (acting)

    __________________

    The following is a letter to the editor regarding erroneous price comparisons in an article in the January 24 issue of The ***.

    It was suggested in the January 24 issue of the *** that an Ontario farmer currently selling hard red spring wheat with 13.5 per cent protein would receive $5.50 per bushel, whereas a grower on the Prairies selling 1CWRS would receive about $4.40 per bushel as a final pool return - approximately $1.10 less. The implication is that this is because of poor performance by the CWB. That implication is incorrect, because of several errors in the comparison.

    To begin with, the comparison relates a spot price (the Ontario price) to a pool value (the CWB Pool Return Outlook). This is a misleading comparison. A pool value is by definition an average of prices achieved over an entire crop year. In a rising market such as we have experienced so far this crop year, a spot price is always higher than a pooled price. Is the CWB selling wheat at those "high" Ontario values and returning those dollars to farmers? Yes. In fact, CWB values are even higher, as noted below.

    The Ontario farmer spot price of $5.50 per bushel is presumably a price at or near an Ontario mill. Therefore, an appropriate comparison would be the current price of CWB wheat landed at an Ontario mill. On February 5, the CWB offered eastern mills No.1 CWRS with 13.5 per cent protein for $230.47 per tonne at Thunder Bay. Add to this freight charges of $25 from Thunder Bay to the mill, and the landed price equals $255.47 per tonne or $6.95 per bushel.

    The comparison, then, is between $5.50 per bushel of hard red spring wheat to the Ontario farmer and $6.95 per bushel for CWB wheat sold in Ontario. This $6.95 per bushel would be added to the pooled payments western farmers receive for wheat sold throughout the 2006-07 crop year.

    Because the CWB's Ontario sales prices are based on competitive North American values, western farmers can obtain similar cash values today under the CWB's other pricing options such as our Daily Price Contract.

    It appears that Ontario farmers are receiving prices that are significantly under current market values.

    The truth, therefore, is the exact opposite: CWB prices are higher.

    Sincerely,
    Gord Flaten,
    CWB Vice-President, Marketing

    Heather Frayne
    CWB communications consultant (acting)

    (2) Editor’s Reply:
    Hi Heather,

    I looked for the article in question. The information appeared, not in an internally generated piece, but in an op-ed provided by Chuck Strahl, our minister of agriculture. As a hint, and since I know you're sending this to everyone who runs the op-eds from Strahl, if you want editors to run your piece, you should not try to make it look like we made a mistake - since we didn't! If you want to reword your letter to be more accurate - that being that 'in an article by Chuck Strahl, minister of agriculture, which appeared in many publications in Saskatchewan,' ... you might actually have a shot
    at getting your side in print. As it is now .. best of luck, you'll need it.

    (3) Letter from Heather Frayne:
    Hi **,

    I just called 306-** and left a message for you with a man whose name I didn't catch. He said he would ask you to call when you get back in.

    I appreciate your comments, and agree absolutely that more specific information would have been useful and appropriate. Unfortunately, because of the gag order and the political environment in which we're trying to operate, I wasn't at liberty to include those details. In other words, I'm relying on editors and publishers to understand the reference--like you, most are well aware of what they've published and what they haven't--and joining the dots for their readers.

    So... all the best. And my apologies for the awkwardness.

    (4) Editor’s Reply:
    Hello Heather,

    What gag order would that be? The one that says that you cannot bad-mouth your boss - the minister of agriculture, Chuck Strahl? … I know it must be frustrating to try to mount a campaign against the guy who signs your pay checks, but I do not believe in 'inferences.' To run your letter without being specific, not only serves to make me look bad, it serves to make you look bad as well.

    (5) Heather Trayne Reply:
    You are, of course, under no obligation to correct misinformation that you have previously published.

    I, like all employees of the CWB, am paid by the farmers of western Canada for whom I work, not by the Minister of Agriculture.

    (6) Editor’s Reply:
    I didn't say you worked for him, I said he signed your pay checks.

    You know something Heather, better still, why don't you take this up with Chuck. He's the one who 'provided' misinformation, if in fact he did, and he is the one you should be addressing - through a letter to the editor, naming him as the culprit... and as for working for the farmers of western Canada ... I'm from Ontario and I know exactly who you're working for, not having been brought up on the fairy tale.

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      #3
      Are ya kidding me??

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        #4
        "Jaw dropping, incredible,groundbreaking research journalism", "way to go Parsley for breaking the story.


        What is going on at the CWB? How dare they!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

        Way to go Frisco, fantastic commentary and insight. You are doing wonders on this site to further our marketing know-how. keep it up.

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          #5
          This is no joke.

          So who is Heather Frayne?

          -worked for years as a radio and television producer for the CBC.

          -Born in England

          - works part-time as an assistant to a Member of Parliament. I don't think it's Strahl!

          -lives in Winnipeg.
          Who is paying Heather Frayne?

          So the next thing is Gord Flaten....this is his letter.

          Shouldn't he be the one fired?


          Parsley

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            #6
            You approve BennyHinn?

            Parsley

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              #7
              Yeah right!

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                #8
                I'm asking you seriously, BH. Are you ok with the CWB launching a change-your-mind campaign in the middle of voting WITH YOUR MONEY?

                Parsley

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                  #9
                  "Unfortunately, because of the gag order and the political environment in which we're trying to operate, I wasn't at liberty to include those details. In other words, I'm relying on editors and publishers to understand the reference--like you, most are well aware of what they've published and what they haven't--and joining the dots for their readers."

                  Looks like a pretty cut and dried case of spending farmers money on another propaganda campaign in violation of the federal order in council.

                  Imagine what they might accomplish if they put this much work into marketing crops instead of marketing B.S.

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                    #10
                    Parsley:

                    I think I know where your staunch opionions come from. Your convictions are deep, and your mindset entrenched.

                    I realize you hate the cwb because of the CWB buy-back on organic sales (as you mentioned over and over again). If there was no buy back on organics, I imagine we wouldnt hear a peep from you.

                    I agree to a point that the CWB should give a concession to valid organic farmers selling organinc production. I dont think 250,000-400,000 tonnes/year organic wheat would effect the CWB pools significantly, so long as the seller is a valid cert organic farmer, selling cert orgainic wheat.

                    Just fax your export permit request to the CWB along with your cert producer information, and go ahead and sell your grain, no buy back. The problem is you will have Cherry Pickers trying to do the same thing, selling non-organics at the higher spot cash price. (Perhaps FRISCO can elaborate on this from experience)?

                    I know you hate the bureaucracy of faxing papers (but you did note in a previous post how easy it was dealing with the USA government's import documentation.

                    I myself as stated before, market 60-70% of my crops non-board (i.e. canola, peas, canary, beans, flax, rye-grass, cert seed, etc) I do so with success on my own and with the assistance of brokers, and lots of networking and researching.. read, read read... and phone phone phone.

                    I like the marketing choice the CWB provides me on top of non-boards, further diversifying my marketing portfolio. I have several marketing options via the board,I like to mix it up with pooling, fixed price , basis (futures first option that isnt available with some major grain co's), rolling basis, play old crop new crop spreads, play 0.1% protein spreads (where are the canola oil spreads), get paid in 10 days, guaranteed payment etc.

                    You can find all the negative you want about any grain co, any person, any religion, any company. It all comes down to ideology, and we will never settle this argument. But eventually you guys will win.

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                      #11
                      I have a problem with some of the comments re Gord Flaten. It is suggested that we are in a rising wheat market. I would suggest that premium values were available early in the crop year and that wheat prices have trended flat for some time. The board states what values it is receiving for wheat delivered Ontario but if PRO's reflect average prices over time then the CWB has obviously made a lot of sales at values considerably lower than Ontario prices received by the farmer. The comments imply that an Ontario producer is receiving less for his grain than someone in the designated area. This is simply not true. The reality is to ask an Ontario producer if he feels he is better off today in an open market than when he was under a single desk. Producers are not stupid. They know there bottom line and make marketing decisions accordingly. If you are happy with the price you receive and it makes you a profit you are receiving value from the market place. Don't imply that by selling at these values you are missing opportunity. Anyone who follows the market understands that under the single desk this crop year we have given up huge opportunites for better values in both wheat and barley.

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                        #12
                        Hey fransico: You seem to be a defender of free speech and freedom of rights. We gained these freedoms as a nation fighting in WW1 WW2. Is the CWB fight at the same level of importance that you seem to make it out to be?

                        How many C.O.'s in you family's past? I hear many in the region didnt fight the wars, but stayed home and bought all the farm land from underneath the fighting soldiers families?

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                          #13
                          Bennyhin said, "The problem is you will have Cherry Pickers trying to do the same thing, selling non-organics at the higher spot cash price. (Perhaps FRISCO can elaborate on this from experience)?"

                          You don't have to worry about me jumping in and out of your precious pool Benny. Give me the option and I'm out, you want it in writing, no problem. There are many ways to capture an average price if that's what gets your motor running, but you don't need my grain to do it, you never did.

                          Bennyhin said, " I like the marketing choice the CWB provides me on top of non-boards, further diversifying my marketing portfolio"

                          Good for you for liking it, some people like brussel sprouts, but stop kidding yourself and everyone else that it is a choice. It is not a choice, you have no say in the matter.


                          Grainbeetle, not that it's any of your business and has nothing to do with the argument, but my family emigrated to Canada from Europe after World War Two with little more than the clothes on their backs.

                          Yes, the CWB is a problem, but no, it is not even in the same category as the Nazi's. What kind of a stupid question is that?

                          Yes farmers who sell their own wheat go to jail, but no those jails are not forced labour camps with gas chambers and ovens on the side.

                          What's the next kooky irrelevant question? Do I like Coke better than Pepsi?

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                            #14
                            GrainBattle

                            My better halfs family had Officers who returned and as Veterans were GIVEN farm land by the gov.

                            It is a sure thing this is a religious battle... built on Coveting, Jelousy, Envy, and Arrogance that anyone should have the right to take a neighbours property. This has nothing to do with cooperation... it is confiscation.

                            Grade for grade... intrinsic quality considered between Canada Eastern Red Spring, and CWRS, CWB Minister Strahl is close enough to the bulls eye... that the CWB should not be beefing.

                            This is the real reason for this charade... not at all as represented by the CWB herein.

                            The CWB is getting Fair Market Value, for quality, inventory control, risk management, and all the other considerations that are part of CWB sales packages to millers. If these eastern millers could get wheat from elsewhere... for less... they would... and at times do even if it costs them extra!

                            It gets tiring fighting with a steer with a bull's bad habits.

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                              #15
                              BennyHinn,

                              1. One shouldn't be an organic farmer if you are not prepared to maintain Identity Preserved records, because an audit trail is mandatory, and by presuming I hate faxing, it shows your unsurprising lack of understanding of IP.

                              2. You are fully accusing IP certification as faulty and leaky because you do not understand what IP certification entails.

                              The IP template is quickly being adopted, no embraced, by many sectors of agriculture, and a great deal of time and money is spent on being able to trace a product on the plate to the farmgate.

                              IP newcomers such as Cattle, trait specific products, etc. will continue to adapt, and each member of the IP chain will only be as valuable as his credibility trail.

                              If you are accusing certification programs, national or private, as being leaky or trying to impersonate, or being downright dishonest, I would suggest that you be prepared to prove your allegations or you should retract your statement.

                              Coming from a producer who is content to dump his year's work in the stronghold of some ship headed for a Third-worlder doesn't lend you any credibility with those couting an entirely different market.

                              4. You have indicated time and time again, you want to continue what you are doing, and I say go at it, but others are targeting what wealthy consumers want. Producers target different customers.

                              5.The CWB has lists and lists and lists over years and years and years and years of busy work...compilation and revisions of all the organic certification bodies, and is easily able to call that organization to see if Fransisco or craig is a certified member.

                              If he is, the amount of grain being exported must reconcile with the audit sheet that every organic farmer has to commit to.

                              6. There is an entire well-paid CWB organic department on red-alert currently sporting a $0.00 sales record, with nothing else to do except call the certification bodies to beg the agencies' update information on new members, so the CWB can update as well.

                              7. The CWB could easily grant the license to the organic farmer on the list or deny the export license to craig because he is not on the list.

                              It's that simple. No giggly-assed organic department to pay for. Just a CWB licensing staffer calling a cerification body to check if the licensing applicant is on the list.

                              The reason this does not happen is why? There is a non-productive department sitting ready to do what? Send out anti-Strahl material?

                              8. Whether it is an organic farmer, or a conventional farmer, or goat farmer, or a pincherry farmer, I will continue to support the undeniably essential under-written principle that must be inherent in farming....farmers must be able to sell what they grow.

                              Parsley

                              PS
                              Picking out who you want to partner with in marriage,in fun, or in business is not necessarily determined by what religion you are or what company you work for or what label beer you drink. What draws people together? It's hard to put a finger on.

                              I asked you the question if you were ok with your money being spent sending letters to the editor. You deliberately chose not to answer. Instead you attacked the credibility of the audit of IP systems.

                              That exhibits, best, exactly what I do not want in a business partner, BennyHinn.


                              Parsley

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