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    #16
    Fransisco,

    Do YOU want to write MP's or do you want hundreds of the MP's mad constituents writing to the MP?

    What is most effective?


    Parsley

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      #17
      Parsley,

      You had better know what the Media are going to do... and how people will react.

      If an activity is taken the "wrong" way...

      Grain growers will pay.

      There is nothing worse than a squabble where folks who SHOULD know better... squabble and fight amongst themselves!

      AND Farmers in the 'designated area' are as talented as anyone on the planet... at this 'special' skill! We even have Profs and Special interest groups... dedicated to making ourselves 'Look' horrible!

      The Media LOVES this!

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        #18
        Well, that certainly happened in Regina.

        First of all, the Minister was hours late. It was freezing cold.

        Squabble.

        The Minister's speech/format certainly divided the camps sharply.

        Maybe farmers need to sit down with each other and make a "how to survive" plan.

        A dispute mechanism. lol

        Parsley

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          #19
          Parsley,

          DO you think we could get Goodale, Easter, and Layton,,, to sit down with say... the Grain Growers of Canada... and resolve this issue?

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            #20
            Every political party I have observed/supported/worked against/ignored, each one of them, never gave a damn about farmers.


            Regina Leader-Post
            March 4, 2008
            By Murray Mandryk


            A federal election over barley?


            How close we were (or possibly still are) to fighting a national election over the marketing of barley is something that we may never know.

            What we do know is that we're no longer quite as close as we were a few days ago. Other political developments appear to be taking precedence.

            Notwithstanding the libel chill that Liberal leader Stephane Dion faces in the wake of Prime Minister Stephen Harper's threatened lawsuit over whether now-deceased MP Chuck Cadman was offered a bribe, the burning political question in

            Ottawa is this: Were high-ranking Conservatives engaged in the same tawdry politics as the Liberals who brought us the sponsorship scandal?

            Suggestions from Dona Cadman (Cadman's widow) that her late husband told her high-ranking Conservatives allegedly dangled a million-dollar life insurance policy in exchange for his vote to bring down the Paul Martin government in May 2005 have become an unexploded landmine for Harper's government.

            Even with Dona Cadman's most recent comments that she doesn't believe Harper himself knew about the offer, these are still pretty serious allegations of a serious ethical breach. That they are supported by Cadman's daughter and son-in-law only adds to their weight.

            The uncertainty created by Cad-scam (as some headline writers call it) likely has made the Conservatives less eager to force Stephane The Unready into a confidence motion that could bring down the minority government.

            And, believe it or not, the street theatre we saw in front of the Legislative Building last Friday over barley marketing might have been the proposed vehicle to force just such a vote.

            At the "rally", federal Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz announced that his government intended to amend the Canadian Wheat Board Act to remove the agency's monopoly on barley sales via a bill in the House of Commons. Ritz also hinted his government might make this a vote of confidence, causing many across the country to speculate that we could be going to the polls over what's an incredibly obscure issue ... even in most of Saskatchewan.

            Politically, however, this was actually a rather ingenious move.

            For all the pushing and shoving (or, better put, swearing) between pro- and anti-Wheat Board forces at the rally, this isn't the biggest issue among Prairie producers. Sure, ending the Wheat Board's monopoly on barley will be harder on smaller producers (though it will be interesting to see if some of the big producers will do quite as well as they think). Either way, comparatively few farmers make their living off barley.

            This issue is, however, of huge symbolic importance -- something akin to the gun registry, which seemed to anger a lot more Westerners than it ever affected. And like the gun debate, it seemed to be of even greater symbolic importance to politicians.

            For the Liberals, there's the legitimate argument that it would be the first real step toward eliminating the CWB altogether. Wascana Liberal MP Ralph Goodale said earlier this year he couldn't even "imagine a circumstance where the Liberal party would vote for a piece of legislation that attempted to destroy the Canadian Wheat Board".

            For the Conservatives, getting rid of the monopoly grain marketing agency has always seemed to be of disproportionate importance.

            Having failed to smoke out Stephane Dion and the Liberals on the crime bill, the Afghanistan mission or even the federal budget, the barley controversy is actually a rather powerful statement.

            For the Conservatives, the real beauty of forcing an election over the Canadian Wheat Board is that it would quickly be forgotten in the ensuing campaign -- especially elsewhere in the country, where voters haven't even heard of the CWB. That would let the Conservatives make the next election about something else -- like Dion's leadership, or lack thereof.

            This sure looked like the Conservative gameplan until the Chuck Cadman story broke.

            Now, one can only wonder if the Conservatives still are all that eager to hold a confidence vote and risk going to the polls with such a potentially explosive issue on their plate.

            UNQUOTE


            Don't look towards those you trusted the most, to care about what happens to you.

            Parsley

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              #21
              Parsley,

              Life can be FUN!

              Like having Dinner with good freinds over a great meal.

              And Talking through problems... learning about each other... quirks... weaknesses... strengths!

              Lets encourage each other to do the things we do WELL even better... and build a better mouse trap... whenever we can!

              Politics is messy. Anyone who has ever been involved... knows appearances... and intents... are often at odds.... ESPECIALLY when the Media have a hate on for people who try too hard to get the job done!

              Lets build a better country. The alternative does little except depreciate the value of our next generation of Canadians!

              God Bless Canada!

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                #22
                Better country will be built by individuals talking to each other not by Politicos. Just takes the will to negotiate and not expect you will get everything you as an individual might like , but with what everybody can live with. Accomdation compromise not appeasement. In other words you may not get all you want the exact way you want it.

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                  #23
                  Why do the columnists,mostly self proclaimed professionals, never delve into the recent rural election results? Only Manitoba has has remained left of center politically, and not in the rural ares. The CWB debate has been a part of the last three Provincial elections....and all strongly supporting the Choice candidates in the rural ridings. I think Parsely is correct, politics is driven by the media, which are urban centric, very unknowledgeable about complex policies...grain, trade, finance,etc. They are very aware that controversy is "good copy" and sells the product of which their livelyhood depends upon. But professioal? honourable? credible?....just like the politicians they follow. Talk about a symbiotic relationship!....Like Parsley says....the ones we trust...Bill

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                    #24
                    Did you put a hand out in Regina, agstar?


                    Did I?


                    Parsley

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                      #25
                      Was'nt there but I am willing to shake hands with anyone as long as they don't bite it!

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                        #26
                        Biting you, agstar?

                        Ah, er, ah, that's a...er,... revelation.


                        Certainly if you were taking me out to dinner, I wouldn't bite, because I could not bite the hand that feeds me.

                        However, f you are having a reoccurring biting problem, that you have surprisingly revealled online, I presume either you are extremely snarly, or attract biters, or both, or else your hands are exceptionally tasty.

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                          #27
                          There seems to be a lot of biters here.

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                            #28
                            Yes. They have taken such a big bite out of yours and the CWB's single-desk logic, there remains little reasoning and logic left standing that can attract young farmers.


                            Young.


                            You must have noticed the youg farmers in Regina.

                            They don't want your ideology, agstar.

                            Parsley

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                              #29
                              Yes, to be young and foolish again. To be easily misled by false profits( pardon the pun)

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                                #30
                                Yeah,Nielsen from the WBG is probably still in diapers, he's so young!

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