What Are You Doing At Seeding Time

[agstar77]

If you are the seed grower Who has exported 130 loads of so-called seed wheat, you might be in court. Apparently a an American trucking firm was hired and wheat was shipped as seed to the U.S. for 24 a Bus. and bought for 16, from local farmers. You shouldn't spend that Half Mill you made just yet. Lawyers fees will take a big chunk. There are others that are in for a surprise. The people that received the grain in the U.S. may also regret their involvement. Those profits have lowered the pool account. I guess the Farmers For Just Us are still active. Sleep tight.

[parsley]

I'm not a seed grower, and I haven't exported grain as you describe, but with your kind of attitude, I'd enjoy taking a load across the line.

You love the thought of jailing farmers don't you, agstar? Does it do something for you?

Being gleeful about sending people to jail for selling what they grow in a free country, says everything about who you are agstar.

What you are.

And I don't ever, ever, want someone like you as my marketing partner.

Ever,

Parsley

[silverback]

Yesterday it was Vader giggling with glee that the PPO program was kicking guys in the balls, now you are dancing around and laughing because the lawyers are tracking down a farmer to beat down.

The class of the cwb knows no bounds.

[silverback]

Aggie, Aggie, Aggie. Did you write this as you sit a your kitchen table, drinking a nice cup of coffee, looking out your picture window....... at the big oil stains on your shop floor!!!

[amun]

Vader Reply posted Mar 22, 2008 16:33 The simple average price is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is what is actually sold. Does it matter one iota that the Minneapolis futures got up to $25.00? Duhhh. Well NO!! There was no volume done at that value.

Does it matter when the spot market for old crop flax goes through the roof when there is virtually none left to sell? We've all been there. Those values only happen after the majority of the crop has been sold.

Why do you insist on quoting spot prices? Because it supports your flawed analysis of the Boards performance. No matter that it is entirely flawed

The individual CWB sales values are irrelevant to this discussion also. What is relevant is at the end of the year, how much was sold at what price. That is exactly what is reflected in the PRO's.

[amun]

i wonder does the bd. really understand the business their in?

[bucket]

the board of directors don't know - their only concern is to extract the $60000.oo retainer for having circle jerks once a month.

If the cwb had any balls at all they would stand up to the railways and straighten their shipping program out.

Bunch of pencil neck pussies is what we have for a board of directors.

[parsley]

Agstar et al dislike the buckets and the silverbacks and the amuns.

That's obvious.

In fact, the Vaders, and the agstars of the world despise all of you.

The only reason,

ONLY reason

they need you is that they see a personal financial gain in being associated with highwayman, and bobn, and ron and all the rest.

They smell money.

Money only flows from either those who create wealth

OR

those who want a piece of that wealth.


This is what we're dealing with:
Greedy schemers with enough nerve stored in "SAVE" , to call those they want to take money from as "greedy".

They named the stash in the pools as their "fair share".


I don't want these people as my marketing partner.

EVER.

Parsley

[craig]

Amun makes the appropriate comment.Does anybody understand that farming is first and foremost a independent business. We may all have our personal views and visions of our particular business but it should be no ones right to dictate to someone else how they should run that business. What might be right for you might be totally wrong for someone else. Why can't we comprehend that Western Canada has a huge diversity in both climate and available markets. Each farming unit is a unique enterprise. Our time is better spent providing the operators with as many tools and options as possible so that he can best react to his own particular situation than arguing over who is right or wrong.

[AdamSmith]

Hey, Agstar, Castro couldn't have said it better himself!

[agstar77]

This wasn't about business, this was about greed. Whether you like it or not , existing rules are the law. If they are changed and some body doesn't like them at what point is it right to break them? If breaking the rules suits you ,it's okay, but what happens if it goes against you? Are you still okay with breaking the rules. If you don't like the rules go see your buddy Ritz and have them changed. I'll abide by whatever decision is made, whether I agree with it or not. We all agree on a level playing field. Some seedgrowers are tipping the field. What about that mill in N.D. that wouldn't take Canadian grain? Do you think they will be pleased when they find out they are milling bootlegged grain from Canada? What kind of repercussions will that have? Country of origin labeling for grain? Maybe an import ban or tariff? This could have far more devestating effects than one seedgrower getting a windfall! The U.S. grain market could be virtually closed to everyone except accredited exporters.

[AdamSmith]

Did you ever think for one moment Agstar, that these rules, as you call them, are what's to blame here?

Is this what we're headed for in western Canada? Is this the industry you desire?

An industry where the wheat the gestapo are out intimidating and arresting people?

The problem Agstar is not that someone fudged the rules, the problem is the rules are so constricting, and so oppressive that the cwb forces otherwise honest hard working people to do things that they otherwise wouldn't do.

Do you think ND would have their stupid rules in place if it wasn't for the cwb and their stupid rules?

No end use cert. for canola, peas, oats etc.

How far are you prepared to go in your attempt to destroy individual initiative? How far are you prepared to go in order to bring the wheat and barley industry to it's knees to where it is of no use to anyone?

What others identify as initiative you label it as greed and do your best to beat it to a pulp.

In a nutshell Agstar you and your kind are the creators of this mess and unfortunatly you have zero clue how to clean it up.

[agstar77]

I said if you don't like the rules ,get your buddy Ritz to change them. You call it iniative I call it theft from every farmer in the Pool account whether you like it or not. Why there isn't the same problem with other crops? Because we don't compete directly for market share in other crops. If canola was grown more widely in the U.S. , we would have the same conflict as wheat.

[Fransisco]

There you have it, when you sell your own grain, according to agstar, you are stealing it from him.

What an absolutely inverted and perverse view of justice.

[agstar77]

Fran, you have no idea what justice really is. The seedgrower wasn't even selling his own grain, just acting as a grain merchant and making a tiny little half mill in the process. Yeah , Farmers For Just Me.