I applaud the Guy who Sold grain to the USA!.

[SASKFARMER3]

The more I think about the story of the guy who bought farmers grain for $16.00 in Canada then sold it as seed etc to the Us farmers for $20.00 plus is just a smart operator.
But in Canada he has broken all the cardinal rules of fair trade and must be punished.
1- farmers who sold to him got close to $7.00 more than most farmers will get from the CWB. Look at latest PRO and then minus what the got from this guy. (that's for CWB supporters because you don't understand math)
2.Second the middle man made 25% for his efforts like any business in City out of this 25% he has to deduct all his expenses etc.
3. American farmers win because they can buy seed for $20.00 not $25.00 a bushel or better.
SO isn't it a win win situation for all involved.
Who looses!
1.- CWB didn't get its share out of the loot. (Doesn't the Mob work like this too, when your in business they come offer protection for a cut)
2. Seed companies if that's what it was sold as. enough said!(if all the advances in genetics were true we would be producing 150 bushel wheat in Canada).
So I don't know I think I like it when a FARMER wins!
Vader isn't that what it all about! FARMERS!

[bgmb]

I agree good for Him,

This topic made me think of an article I read in the cooperator recently. They talking about the special treatment seed growers enjoy under the CWB. Like being able to get out of delivery contracts if the grain is to be sold for seed.
There was also a quote from an anoymous seed grower who was pissed because non traditional seed growers (other farmers) were taking advantage of the system. I thought that was pretty arrogant.

[SASKFARMER3]

I guess what I am trying to get out to farmers, Real grain farmers the ones that are working increasing their farm size, working like fools and at the same time because were to busy to run for CWB directors etc we are being taken advantage of by everyone.
From Organic special privileges to Seed growers etc, to our preferred clients (wink wink). The CWB has helped every one except the primary grain producers.
But again its spring and were all getting really busy so it will continue for another year.

[wedino]

SaskFarmer, you say "must be punished".
I say he gets the same punishment that Vader got, absolutely nothing.

I agree, good for him.

[agstar77]

Yeah, one hand clapping. Besides you can sleep better not worrying who will come a knockin'.

[furrowtickler]

Agstar - God forbid someone make more money than you on board grains, it sickens me that your happy that he may get punished for this. Good on him, I hope this gets good attention, it will show how the borg mafia opperates.

[agstar77]

He will get lot's of attention. When seedgrowers lose their export privlidges , he will be very popular.

[silverback]

So you are suggesting that you are going to start denying export permits to seed growers? Correct?

I guess then you have to stop giving them to eastern canadians, feed mills, organic growers, etc... ??? (Who else am I not mentioning?)

If you shut one group down now, how can you justify letting the rest carry on as usual?

Or will it still be ok for those select people?

[agstar77]

No, but it will become a lot harder, more red tape.

[Fransisco]

If the CWB yanks all seed growers export privileges whose popularity is really going to suffer?

Think about it agstar.

[SASKFARMER3]

Wedino read the whole post I am laughing what CWB supporters are saying, its not what I think I agree with what the guy did its helping farmers get a fair price for their product.

[TOM4CWB]

Agstar77,

This kind of export business happened for decades... ever since the end of the second world war.

It is YOU... who do not understand... that seed wheat is not in the jurisdiction of the CWB Act or Canada Grain Act...Since the CWB Act, "Section 2(2) Unless it is otherwise provided in this Act, words and expressions used in
this Act have the same meaning as in the Canada Grain Act, except that where in
any definition of any such word or expression contained in that Act the word
"elevator" is used, it has the meaning given to it under subsection (1).”

Where anywhere does the CWB Act say it has any jurisdiction over seed for the purposes of the Canada Seeds Act. Seed guarentees genetic purity... not milling quality.

1. It should be clear that if seed is not designated as grain for the purpose of the Canada Grain Act, it is also not grain for the purpose of the Canadian Wheat Board Act [CWB Act Section 2(2)] The CWB during the first 30 years of operations did not issue export licenses pursuant to Part IV of the CWB Act for Pedigreed Seed under the authority of the Canada Seeds Act. A whole seed industry in southern Alberta was built on this fact... and in the 1950's Certified seed was shipped globally... outside the CWB pool accounts... and the price determined by protien content rather than CGC grades.

Here is what the CGC lawyers wrote in 1993 when I was a part of the Special Crops Act Initiative:

"NON CANADA GRAIN ACT GRAINS

Seed, forage crops and canary seed are not designated as grain for the purpose of the Canada Grain Act. Canary seed is not under the Act because the industry does not want canary seed regulated. Grade specifications are not needed by the industry because contract specifications for canary seed vary from contract to contract. This provides flexibility to market according to contract specifications and meets the needs of the industry far better than a grading system. Seed is covered under the Seeds Act while forage crops are not under federal jurisdiction because they are not generally exported but are consumed domestically."

[Burbert]

This is likely baloney. Bravado from anti-board types, attempting to create more chaos in the market place. If this did happen, then the guy should be prosecuted!

[Fransisco]

It's your buddy agstar who started the rumour, but nice try.

[parsley]

What will be interesting is iwhen the Export Manufactured Feed Agreement Export Licenses are YANKED, and the Board begins to market that wheat and barley to the feed mills, so it goes through the pools.

That should cause some angst.

I'm way down in the USA where they won't even take a Canadian dollar. Period.


Parsley