No Discrimination in "Buy Back" System

[Fransisco]

The reason you don't like the "simple" average is that you "simply" can't beat it and that is the 'simple', easy to understand, truth.

Muddying the waters, Rod, will not help you to make them appear deep.

[Fransisco]

Mustardman and Grassfarmer you seem to believe that companies are guilty no matter what they do.

If the prices they give you are too low you accuse them of ‘monopoly’ like behavior. If one company offers prices different than another, you cry unfair competition, and if they offer up the same prices they are guilty of collusion or conspiracy.

There is no winning with you guys because you seem to have no use for the free enterprise system which is the surest way to economic growth.

[parsley]

mustardman;

You say:
"If you think you are Marketing Yourself .....You are sadly mistaken. "


Read it again!

I say:
Silly, Einstein, little, huge, dweeby, shnooky, clever, stubborn, blinded, greedy, droopy, gorby-loving, patient, impatient, cash-rich, dirt poor, likeable, hateable,all of them...every kind of them...FARMERS and they began organics.

Created it.

And they not only marketed the grain themselves, but they marketed the idea of organics, themselves.

Not too shabby an industry, I'd say.

Now, even the CWB wants to step in and claim it as their own.

The problem you have mustardman, is this...you do not believe in yourself, and you do not believe in, or have confidence in, the ability of your fellow farmers.

You still want the government teat.

You are still willing to pay the "Flaman-Fee" for that service.

I am truly sorry for you.

Parsley

[parsley]

Vader,

You will love the responses you recieve about pricing. Nice try.

You can talk for months and years, and decades about pricing.

Adjusting prices.

Conferencing.

Comparative charts.

Yup...studies, with enuff paper charts to revive Domtar.

Think of the gray colored studies to be commissioned which could concentrate on "suitably adjusting" your Flaman Fee, "tuning it", so to speak, as one does an FM radio station.

Oh, Vader, Vader, Vader, you want to divert our attention away from the real issue, which is denying Westerners licenses, and instead finaggle about pricing.

Very cleverless.

The real issue isn't about the amount of the buyback, or a fractional adjustment of it, or the currency it is based upon.

Nope.

The issuse is this ...Ontario doesn't DO a buyback at all.

None.


Zippo.

That's what we want.


NO BUYBACK LICENSES.

Let's keep our eye on the ball, folks.

Parsley

[mustardman]

Saskfarmer
The difference is pennies between A, b or C
Are you selling your peas direct to India ?
If so then You Are a Marketer.

If you are selling your peas to Viterra ,Pioneer,Parkland Pulse, Walker Seed etc etc etc. YOU are simply TAKING A PRICE.

For they then sell your product to enduser or other buyer at a hefty margin which ,by the way they will not disclose.

[parsley]

Yesssssssssssssssss!

You finally realize that EVERY FARMER must have, and maintain the right, to sell what he grows, to whom he chooses.

You're finally getting it, mustardman.

Parsley

[Fransisco]

No buyback licenses work for me.

At the end of the day I just want to choose who I do business with and when. I don't want those choices dictated to me.

[Fransisco]

So then mustardman by your own definition the CWB is a price taker and not a marketer.

The folks listed below are the ones who do the marketing.

http://www.cwb.ca/db/buying/sales_process/accredit.nsf/accexppage?ReadForm

Lets go through the list.

ADM
Alfred C. Toepfer (Canada) Ltd.
BARI - Canada Inc.
Bunge North America
Canada Malting
Cargill Limited
James Richardson International Limited
Louis Dreyfus Canada Limited
Parrish & Heimbecker
Paterson Grain
Sojitz Corporation of America
Viterra Inc.
Agro-Hall Ltd.
ConAgra Limited
Eagle Sterling Co. Limited

So lets see first these guys take their cut, then the CWB takes their cut and finally the farmer gets whatever crumbs are left over.

For someone who doesn't like middlemen skiming his profits mus you have kind of a misplaced faith in the board. No?

[Fransisco]

I mean, come on, each year these guys sell pretty much 50 percent of the wheat and up to 80 percent of Western Canadian barley.

[SASKFARMER3]

Vader and Mustard back to the Post.
Yes their is discrimination in this country where ORGANIC and East Canada can do what ever they want and Western Canada Cant!
That's it in plain truth.
But here is a Idea give us the opportunity to have a decent by back and allow us access to highest bidder, wouldn't it shake the tree because not every one would do it (CWB would stick with board) Supply would diminish, Then you could charge a penalty for those of us who don't have product to deliver to the CWB. OK that would be this year but one can wish but then the higher price dream is almost gone since most ND and Montana prices are down from their highs but one hiccup and guess what their up.
OK now back to the original comment, so if we then had a lower stocks ratio wouldn't that create a shortage in Canada and thus the CWB price having to go up.
But wait the big problem is that a few farmers would actually get a premium from the market and that is what the CWB doesn't want. Its like the DPC hitting $20.00 it didn't happen and it wasn't because of the market it was the CWB secret formula and the simple fact they couldn't let a farmer actually get the psychological $20.00 a Bushel for wheat he would be a legend that would hurt the CWB image.