CWB Organic Sector Market Development Initiative

[TOM4CWB]

Dear Vader;

How could this happen:

Organic growers are exempt from the buyback... and yet the CWB will spend hundreds of thousands of $$$'s per year... developing an industry that is not even a part of the CWB monopoly.

So I MUST pay... for you to do this for yourself... for your own benefit... at my expense.

What kind of loopy logic got us to this point?

Who does the CWB work for?

How on earth can you justify making me pay for this?

Details found @

http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/about/osmdi/

[bucket]

tom4cwb

If you look on some other threads pro cwb people call anti cwb people "farmers for just me"

Funny thing is I think thats exactly what vader/flaman is.

He looks after himself.

Also you have to remember that Stewie is Hill's brother in law. Who do you think is influencing the cwb now?

Even pro cwb conventional farmers can't be this blind.

Vader is a liberal - its a prerequisite to know how to take care of yourself while saying its in the best interests of everybody. I call it socialism, others would call it communism.

Anyway it pees me off.

[parsley]

WINNIPEG FREE PRESS
24 April, 2008



by Mia Rabson

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Ag critic wants to know if privacy laws violated



OTTAWA -- The federal privacy and ethics commissioners have been asked to determine whether Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz violated privacy laws by seeking information about individual farmers from the Canadian Wheat Board.

Liberal agriculture critic Wayne Easter wrote to both federal commissioners Monday, saying Ritz asked the CWB president to violate the federal Privacy Act "not once, but twice." "Law and order doesn't matter to them if it gets in the way of their ideology," said Easter.

Easter's concerns rest with two letters written by Ritz to CWB president Greg Arason asking for information about producers who participated in a pilot project to establish a separate pool for organic grains.

The first letter -- written in October 2007 -- sought the names and addresses of farmers who applied for the program, who was selected to participate, how much grain they marketed through the program, how they benefited from it and how they are currently marketing their grain.

Arason responded that giving information about individual producers would violate the Privacy Act but offered to give summary information about the project.

But Ritz wrote a second time in January asking for the information, saying he was disappointed Arason had refused the first time.

Easter said the first letter was perhaps a mistake. But after he was told the information was protected, Ritz's second attempt to get the farmers' names was obviously an attempt by a minister of the Crown to ignore the Privacy Act.

"For him again to, in very forceful words, say I still want that information, that's pushing the envelope just a bit much too far,'' said Easter.

A spokesman for Ritz said Wednesday the minister had nothing new to say about the issue, and instead referred the media to Ritz's comments in the House of Commons last week.

When answering a question on the matter April 16, Ritz said he has responsibility to ensure the pilot projects of the wheat board don't intrude on taxpayers' money and that they are effective.

"When I found out that only 25 farmers took part in this pilot, I thought it was a good opportunity to phone them all personally to find out what exactly worked, what did not work, and build a better mousetrap for the future,'' said Ritz. "That is what we are trying to do." The letters came to light after a debate in the House of Commons earlier this year where Tory MP David Anderson -- parliamentary secretary for the Canadian Wheat Board -- seemed to know information about the farming business of National Farmers' Union president Stewart Wells.

Easter said that debate led to Wells filing an access to information request, which resulted in the letters being made public.

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There is nothing quite as stupid as a legislated body that has the unmitigated nerve to give their legislated Minister the finger.

Parsley

[TOM4CWB]

Parsley...

The Minister has a right to know... there is mega bucks being spent on CWB Orgainics... and 25 people use the CWB organic program?

That must bring in masses of income to pay for all the overhead to administer CWB Organics!

SO commercial 'designated area' growers must once again pay the bill... on a crop the CWB directors dropped their 'single desk' monopoly on...

AND Vader claims there is no discrimination? Pehaps none against his organic marketing @$3.32/t when I was required to pay over $500/t for the same opportunity!

And Vader had the opportunity to cash sell any uncommitted stocks on February 26th... My Commercial grain growing neighbours and I did NOT.

'Lest we forget'!

The 100's of Thousands that died... for the personal freedoms... that Vader SMIRKS at and abuses...

[parsley]

As you well know, I have been adamantly opposed to CWB involvement in organics in any way, shape or form.

The CWB meddled.

Years ago, on this site, I condemend the CWB for taking money out of conventional farmers' accounts, to establish an organic marketing department.

The CWB meddled.

The CWB vacumed names from legitimate organic exporters, in order to compile a list of buyers whom the CWB could contact, and then go in head to head competition with organcis.

Conventionals paid the bill from the pooling accounts, again.

So organics does pay...., but differently...they pay from the perspective that the CWB steals a piece of their industry, a day at a time.

It's about jobs. Setting up departments.Staff. Trips to organic expositions in Europe.

Money is no object.

The CWB know nothing about organics, so they raid organic information, compile it, and send conventionals the bill.

Few complain.

"It's not my job to complain," says the farmer."That's why we electoed directors".

The CWB meddle.

It IS the farmers' job that's on the line, though.

That's the scarey part.

Parsley

[parsley]

Organics continue to grow. The grower below, has lobbied to the Standing Committee of Agriculture in Ottawa for market choice, and has worked endlessly to achieve marketing choice.

Quoted from the April 23, 2008 Country Guide:

"Saskatchewan Organic Farmers Earn International Honour

Saskatchewan organic farmers Eric and Betty Leicht have earned an honourable mention from an international certifying body as its organic farmers of the year.

The Leichts, who farm at Spalding, about 160 km southeast of Prince Albert, were named at the Organic Crop Improvement Association's (OCIA International) recent annual general meeting in Huatulco, Mexico.

The Leichts grow pulse, cereals and oilseeds and in 2007 grew five varieties of organic lentils, including small green, large green, red crimson, beluga and French green. They also grew peas, spelt, wheat, barley, oats, brown and golden flaxseed and brown and yellow mustard."

UNQUOTE

Organic farmers who are not late comers, realize the value of the free market.

Did you ever notice that he CWB latches on to any farming/grain enterprize that has potential and either destroys it, like they did the pasta project, or tries to swallow it, like organics.

Either way, conventional farmers pay the bill.

Calmly.
Without wanting to cause a ruckus.
Without wanting to look agressive.
Without wanting to seem....uh...unfair.
Nice.

The CWB counts on it.


Parsley
PS

Oh well.
Maybe it's time to look around.
It's spring.

How do you get rid of a blood sucking warble host with young progeny falling off in clumps, hungrier than the gorged parent?

[parsley]

The Leader-Post
25 April,2008

Letter by David Anderson

QUOTE

Exactly where does NFU stand?



It is unfortunate that National Farmers Union Stewart Wells' letter to the editor of April 10 ("CWB and organic crops: selling through it makes
sense") begins and ends with a personal attack. I will, in contrast, respond to the issue he discusses.

Western farmers are held captive by the Canadian Wheat Board. We must deal with it -- it tells us how much of our grain it will sell and it tell us the price it will give us.

Many farmers would like to be free to market their own grain, convinced they'd be better off marketing their own product.

This year, the CWB is letting organic grain farmers (but not regular wheat producers) do just that. Organic producers like Wells, may get what amounts to a zero-dollar buy back from the CWB.

That means they can then market their own grain and have been able to take full advantage of rising market prices.

Quotes for various types of organic grain have been between $12 and $25 a bushel, depending on the class. Producers I've spoken to have been overwhelmingly positive about this opportunity.


Unfortunately, this same benefit is not available to the 98 per cent of farmers who grow regular grain. The board continues to insist it must market their grain for them.

Farmers have been pressing Wells -- they're asking him if he's taken advantage of the organic buyback at the same time that his farm organization opposes freedom for western Canadian farmers.

For several months, Wells has not answered that question and apparently refuses to.

Since the beginning of the crop year, Wells has been silent when asked why he should get an opportunity denied other farmers.

He may be basically working under a free-market system and able to take full advantage of that, while demanding the vast majority of farmers be denied the same opportunity.

Why has his organization failed to speak out against the Canadian Wheat Board's unfair treatment of farmers?

The point that farmers are making is that Wells should not be telling others they need to be bound by the CWB system while he can get a deal on the buyback and is free to sell his grain into a premium market.

David Anderson
Anderson is parliamentary secretary to the minister of natural resources and the minister for the Canadian Wheat Board.
Ottawa

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[parsley]

Stuart Wells believes in supply management.

Quotas.

Would he approve of getting an organic wheat and barley production quota that displaces conventional production?

Nah.



ah, lemme think about that again...


Oh wait.


He approved of a special buyback for organics but I don't hear him promoting the same fairness for conventionals.


Uh


Now, I remember...

AND

for that reason....

HE IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF PERSON I DO NOT WANT, EVER, EVER,EVER, AS MY MARKETING PARTNER.

Parsley