Sask Pulse Growers

[parsley]

Haven't ever applied for a refund.

It's the principle I am talking about.

And it's not just canola growers. It's Ag organizations who slap through legislation and farmer be damned. I understand why it's done. I also approve of research.

I just don't support HOW it's done.

The onus should NOT be on the farmer to recoup his earnings.

Maybe you would advocate that all your body organs AND MINE should automatically be harvested unless you notify your hospital otherwise. I say no

It is too easy to collect from farmers this way. It gives everyone but farmers an unfair advantage.

Add a waiver portion, and I'm happy. It does not preclude a farmer from participating either.

I also realize that some seed growers voluntarily give a checkoff. Good for you for being pro-active. That is your choice, though.

BUT, there should not be legislation in place that AUTOMATICALLY extracts money from anyone's paycheck, no matter the reason, environmental, mental health, food aid, etc..

It is egregious.IMHO

Parsley

[cottonpicken]

Am away from the article,will post specific quotes and names later.

It was in the mail,a news letter type thing.

[cottonpicken]

"we see a possibility of lower prices in the fall.We certainly recommend growers take advantage of the premiums being paid for old crop lentils and market their remaining stock prior to August"

Tyler Thorpe agricom international

"prices in the 40 cent range are historically high and it is reasonable to be thinking about 25 cents next year"


Greg Kostal Kostal Ag Consulting

I'm not going to even talk about Brain Clancey technical marketing stragecies which is ignorant at best.

Do you support all these statments Charlie?

Do you not see their talking the market down?

Do you see how they stand to profit?

[bucket]

cp

My neighbors went to a meeting in spring 07 and kostal was telling them not to grow flax last year. Kostal got paid for his presentation. My neighbors are still fuming.

[charliep]

Do you support all these statments Charlie?

Yes. I have a lot of respect for Greg and Brian with regards to knowledge of the markets and ability to take information and turn it into something a farmer can use to make decisions with.

Do you not see their talking the market down?
No. They are presenting information as best they see it based on current conditions today. They are only a tiny piece of the puzzle however. People will consider their information along with that of others and their opinion including THE FINANCIAL CONDITION AND RISK TAKING ABILITY OF THEIR BUSINESS and make their own decision. The combination of many decisions (completed transactions) is what makes a price on a daily basis.

Do you see how they stand to profit?
No I don't. Perhaps you can enlighten me.

I look forward to seeing your name on the side. Will look forward to your strategies (which hopefully include other things than being 100 % long). Mine is Charlie Pearson by the way.

[charliep]

bucket

Farmers made 100 % of their decision based on a market outlook in likely Feb./Mar. and weren't able to adapt to new conditions? Did anyone follow up with Greg closer to seeding time to see if his recommendations had changed. My experience with Greg and outlooks is that he provides full disclosure on his thinking processes and analysis. I always encourage all farmers to spend understand why as much as what and be prepared to react.

[bucket]

Look, Kostal gets paid to show up at meetings and tell people what he knows or for that matter what he doesn't know. You are right farmers have to be more mindful of the info they receive.

Farmers go to these meetings and expect these guys to give them some perspective. When they are wrong its no sweat off their ass.

Quite frankly, I read things on this site, the paper, watch the markets (I wish I had balls bigger than raisins to play the futures market)and make the decisions based on that and costs.
Sometimes its one abscure article that can make a decision for me. I think weber said a couple months ago 300000 acres at 20 bu were needed for flax demand. Flax pencilled in better than canola. Just the seed costs made it a better option. I knew lentils were a good option but I just hate wrecking the combine. Although at these prices I could have wrecked one. Thing is I know who talked me out growing lentils and I hate mirrors. My decision and I can live with the consequences just like my 800 acres of flax I will probably be combing in the snow.

[cottonpicken]

Well Charlie if you want to take the gloves off.

Was the start of the post.

Then i deleted everything.

I dont need to let hyde out.

Dont tempt me again.

[TOM4CWB]

dave4441;

Alberta Pulse growers do have access to many SASK Pulse Varieties... Peas, lentils, Chickpeas... and AB refundable levy DOES pay for that right to access this gene pool.

Select stocks are very expensive... so seed growers pay a big price up front to start with.

No system is perfect... including this one... Parsley is right... there is a big difference in funding legislation between AB and SK Pulse Commissions.

SK Pulse Crop Development Bd. is under Federal Legislation... AB. Pulse Growers is under AB Legislation regulated by Marketing Council AB Legislation.

Interesting that AB Beef Producers have a mandatory levy... and a producer vote continued/approved this levy not too many years ago!

Cattle Producers are more 'left' wing than many of them would like to admit!

[charliep]

cottonpicken

Will acknowledge your comments. Will note the purpose of Agri-ville is the exchange of ideas. There is no commitment to saying we all agree on everything. Solid and well thought out debate is good thing.