How can you spot a quota-lover?

[parsley]

They keep reminding us that orderly marketing is what they drool over.


Here's orderly marketing's very own jail and fine advocate Larry Hill in today's Leader-Post with his whisperings....:

"The bottom line, in economic terms, is that there is real benefit to having orderly marketing structures for all sorts of agricultural products. They can improve producers' returns. They can help manage risk. They can enhance food security by helping to ensure that agriculture remains viable."


Next CWB study will be on quotas. And bucket, and furrowticker, theyaintagonna like-the-likes of yous.

Yup.

Parsley

[Burbert]

Yeah, chaos, greed, corruption, good ole boys/girls dealing, crooks and brokers, should prevail in the market. That will really, really, be a huge step forward/backward for Canadian farmers!

[parsley]

You will be championing Cuba's system where production possibility is allotted.

Betten fatten up. Cuba couldn't feed it's own people. You may be going hungry with the system you are promoting. Or do you have a head start, burbert?


The success of a country is judged by it's ability to feed its' people.


Parsley

[bucket]

What I want is the ability to delver when I sign a contract with non of this "there's no call".

When I finish harvest I want to start hauling, if I got to put up with this price pooling crap, So that I don't have the cwb telling me to haul in the middle of seeding.

What Hill doesn't realize is the cwb does not control delivery - the railways do. I would be a rich man if they paid me for every time the local elevator said waiting for cars.

Quotas are not the issue - the world is going to buy every stinking bushel we have. I want the premium price.

[parsley]

And what makes you think you will be able to sell your grain WITHOUT quota?

And WHO gets the quota allotted to them by Hill, Flaman et al?

Hmmm.....

Burbert might be tripling production and renting your land.

[bucket]

Parsley

I don't think quotas can work because it puts the power back in producers hands. Contracts as they are now reveal how much grain is there. Quotas have to be filled. If a producer can't fill his quota he will have to find the grain - could be a problem in a shortage. Then the board supporters would find out what grain is really worth when they had to fill their quota.

[wilagro]

You youngsters have NO idea how quotas worked in the past. At least they gave everyone a chance for some income after harvest when there were not enough rail cars or where elevators would have been plugged by the farmers who harvested first and/or had the biggest operations.

Now everyone is for ME, Me, Me and want to sell FIRST and to heck with everyone else, (and at the highest price of course). Survival of the fittest, or fleetest, or so-called smartest is all that matters.

[bucket]

I was told to treat farming like business by government and the experts.

I want to deliver my grain because usually after the cwb gives my grain away I have to go to work for the winter to pay bills and mortgages. I wasn't given a farm but I am sure sick others that tell me how when or why I run my business.

[bucket]

BTW the current contract calls allows everyone to deliver 45 tonnes. For some of you cwb supporters you have hauled in your crop long before I start.

[stubblejumper]

bucket if you are as big an opperator as you claim why do you need a winter job?

[highwayman]

Willy grow
Save your arrogance toward the younger farmers on this forum. With 30 years of filling out a permit book one thing that I learned quite quickly is that the quota system never worked for our farm when we were 1000 acres or when we were 7500 acres. It did a good job of supporting the grain bin industry as we always had to carry over a ridiculous amount of grain because we never would have enough quota space to market it all. Many missed opportunities were the result of this system at a cost we will never be able to measure. Maybe we were guilty of producing more than our fair share in your eyes and wanting to much of the pie by maximizing our returns on our investment to the best of our ability. If that is what the likes of you consider selfish and self centered, then tar and feather me because that is what farmers have been doing for gernerations. That fact that you hold a fellow agricultural producer in contempt for looking after his bottom line in a reasonable manner says a lot about your character or rather a lack there of. If you really hate those that want to be profitable in agriculture and control their own future
than I suggest you take a good look in the mirror and ask yourself just who really is just about me. To the rest of you that do speak with some level of intelligence, I apoligize for the rant. Just have had enough of the socialistic bull that is being spewed on this site.

[bucket]

Stubblejumper

Apparently you missed what I said. After the cwb gave my grain away I had to go make money to pay my bills and my mortgages. You see since I couldn't haul in what should have been 25 dollar durum and I couldn't haul it when I wanted to, the people I owe money to wanted some.

I don't think this really matters but since all you board supporters just count your neighbors bins to figure if you should call revenue canada, my new drill just rolled over 8300 acres and thats why i work off the farm - too make life better. Too bad the cwb couldn't help some of us in that regard. You asked if I was a big operator. You can judge. I have been asked to farm more next year. Not bragging either but I was taught not to ask or ignorantly imply the size of one's farm or herd size. I won't ask your farm size, I don't care and its not relevant. Pissing matches and circle jerks are for people like you.

[parsley]

bucket,

Just got home.

I am talikng about PRODUCTION quotas.And by the way, I admire your head down, ass up work ethic. It will pay off.

Highwayman, I hid under the table after I read your rant.LOL I think you're getting the hang of it. Now, if you'd REALLY get annoyed with the CWB....


Parsley

[bucket]

Parsley

Here is the problem. Let mother nature throw a zinger like what happened in Iowa, couple that with rising demand and a hungry world, and I think you can throw quotas out the window.

IMHO I just don't think they work in grain production. Milk, yes, but that's a factory and the weather has less impact on production.

[parsley]

Tell it to Larry Hill et al, not me! This is his wish list:

"The bottom line, in economic terms, is that there is real benefit to having orderly marketing structures for all sorts of agricultural products."

Parsley