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    #13
    I think Dions Carbon tax would do very little to curb demand, and just make people who are struggling to make ends meet that much poorer. It won't slow down anyone who has money to spend. Manditory regulations over an extended period of time is te best solution in my eyes... Give companies and consumers time to adjust. We did not create this situation overnight, and it will not be cured overnight. If you believe Al Gore its to late and were all domed anyway.. He's not saying that exactly he thinks its worth a try, but when you look at his charts and graphs this is a runaway train with no chance to stop it... Is it worth sending our economy into the dumps trying to do the impossible?? Maybe we should be spending time and money figuiring out how we can live on a hot planet.

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      #14
      By the way I think we are jumping the gun a little when we think the East will support Dion's carbon tax. As it will do nothing to support job creation and that is what they need, not another stupid tax.

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        #15
        If you took Dion, dressed him up, put a tape over his mouth, and shoved him in front of "The Bench", and then got hopperbin and mbratrud to prop him up by the shoulders, and then asked the court question, "Your honor, does he look, and walk and talk like a Prime Minister?" , the court would burst out laughing, and even the Liberal judge would be too embarrased to reply anything but a subdued, "No."

        Parsley

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          #16
          Hopperbin,

          To think Dion can redistribute wealth by taxing the economy... and picking winners and loosers... is as communist and arrogant as it gets!

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            #17
            $150 oil should be enough to spur development of new technologies and conservation. If the Dion were to get elected, and I don't think he will, this carbon tax will hurt the entire Canadian economy. Who in their right mind will vote for a tax on home heating fuel, or electricity if they are just making the making their house payment. The best job security is to have a strong economy and Canada so far is leading the G8. We have the only positive equity market year to date. The message has to get out that if you think things are bad now just wait.

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              #18
              Tom Do you not think that we have done this in the energy sector for decades - picked winners and losers by gov't subsidy to oil sector but not a penny to renewable energys.

              So unlike Europe which is way ahead of us on the renewable energy front we plod along unwilling to change, chanting the same old mantra "it will hurt the economy, it will hurt the economy, " When in fact it will hurt the Old economy but the new renewable energy sector will boom and the sooner we get on board the better

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                #19
                “Tom Do you not think that we have done this in the energy sector for decades - picked winners and losers by gov't subsidy to oil sector but not a penny to renewable energys”

                Umm, we’ve never subsidized the energy sector. Not taxing revenue that would never otherwise have been generated without a tax holiday, is not the same thing as a subsidy. There would be no tar sands oil recovery technology, and no billions of taxes coming in now without the tax holiday that oil companies received back in the 70’s.

                “not a penny to renewable energys” Have you been past Pincher Creek lately mustardman? You’ll see a quite a few of our tax dollars spinning around in circles there.

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                  #20
                  mustardman,

                  If we use a toolbox of energies...oil, wind, nuclear, coal, hydrogen...isn't that the most effective insurance?

                  Regions are rich in some, and void in others. Coal in Estevan, Saskatchewan has been the basis for Saskatchewan Power. Changing for the sake of would be irresponsible,

                  Alberta has oil.It's prudent if Albertans use oil energy.

                  Nothing saying every energy sector cannot refine and improve and environmentalize.

                  Ontarionians can put windmills on their hats when they're riding their bicycles to cool off, after they have turned off their air conditioners and sold their SUV's.(tic) Dion, whistling, can lead the movement, er new sector.


                  Parsley

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                    #21
                    One other thing..I always found the folks who threw out the matching gold stove, the gold fridge and the gold dishwasher, even though there was nothing wrong with them, so that they could replace them with the latest stainless steel models.....were shallowest of the shallow.

                    But the "greens" who want to destroy oil energy can top the keeping-up-with-the-Joneses ficklers in every category..they are ficklest, shallowest, stupidist, and dishonest.

                    They are bandwagoners who have little qualms about destroying the Canadian way of life, and not one of them would be prepared to be stuffed up in those Toronto highrises without air-conditioning, and first class flights to third world countries documenting poverty, paid for by tax grants.

                    Now, that should cause a hiatial hernia, mustardman..

                    Parsley

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                      #22
                      bduke,

                      Can't agree with you as Dion as leader.

                      This is why:

                      If he was PM of this country, can you imagine him walking into the United Nations in NYC and beginning to speak?(Or Peewee Herman?)

                      He begs the ridiculous! And every time he'd say a sentence, the entire UN assembly would burst into laughter, and continue laughing in fits and starts and so out of control,and as he'd continue with another sentence, there would be another raucious uproar, he would be banned for lack of dignity.

                      Parsley

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                        #23
                        Parsley,

                        You CAN'T SAY THAT... ITS DISCRIMINATION! LIBERAL discrimination at that! They will send the human rights commission after you... bar the doors... lock the gates... you are in big trouble!

                        GRIN { :

                        shame on you!

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                          #24
                          No worries, I'm a Mine or It ee on AV.
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