New Leader?

[TOM4CWB]

Hopperbin,

To think Dion can redistribute wealth by taxing the economy... and picking winners and loosers... is as communist and arrogant as it gets!

[cris]

$150 oil should be enough to spur development of new technologies and conservation. If the Dion were to get elected, and I don't think he will, this carbon tax will hurt the entire Canadian economy. Who in their right mind will vote for a tax on home heating fuel, or electricity if they are just making the making their house payment. The best job security is to have a strong economy and Canada so far is leading the G8. We have the only positive equity market year to date. The message has to get out that if you think things are bad now just wait.

[mustardman]

Tom Do you not think that we have done this in the energy sector for decades - picked winners and losers by gov't subsidy to oil sector but not a penny to renewable energys.

So unlike Europe which is way ahead of us on the renewable energy front we plod along unwilling to change, chanting the same old mantra "it will hurt the economy, it will hurt the economy, " When in fact it will hurt the Old economy but the new renewable energy sector will boom and the sooner we get on board the better

[FarmRanger]

“Tom Do you not think that we have done this in the energy sector for decades - picked winners and losers by gov't subsidy to oil sector but not a penny to renewable energys”

Umm, we’ve never subsidized the energy sector. Not taxing revenue that would never otherwise have been generated without a tax holiday, is not the same thing as a subsidy. There would be no tar sands oil recovery technology, and no billions of taxes coming in now without the tax holiday that oil companies received back in the 70’s.

“not a penny to renewable energys” Have you been past Pincher Creek lately mustardman? You’ll see a quite a few of our tax dollars spinning around in circles there.

[parsley]

mustardman,

If we use a toolbox of energies...oil, wind, nuclear, coal, hydrogen...isn't that the most effective insurance?

Regions are rich in some, and void in others. Coal in Estevan, Saskatchewan has been the basis for Saskatchewan Power. Changing for the sake of would be irresponsible,

Alberta has oil.It's prudent if Albertans use oil energy.

Nothing saying every energy sector cannot refine and improve and environmentalize.

Ontarionians can put windmills on their hats when they're riding their bicycles to cool off, after they have turned off their air conditioners and sold their SUV's.(tic) Dion, whistling, can lead the movement, er new sector.


Parsley

[parsley]

One other thing..I always found the folks who threw out the matching gold stove, the gold fridge and the gold dishwasher, even though there was nothing wrong with them, so that they could replace them with the latest stainless steel models.....were shallowest of the shallow.

But the "greens" who want to destroy oil energy can top the keeping-up-with-the-Joneses ficklers in every category..they are ficklest, shallowest, stupidist, and dishonest.

They are bandwagoners who have little qualms about destroying the Canadian way of life, and not one of them would be prepared to be stuffed up in those Toronto highrises without air-conditioning, and first class flights to third world countries documenting poverty, paid for by tax grants.

Now, that should cause a hiatial hernia, mustardman..

Parsley

[parsley]

bduke,

Can't agree with you as Dion as leader.

This is why:

If he was PM of this country, can you imagine him walking into the United Nations in NYC and beginning to speak?(Or Peewee Herman?)

He begs the ridiculous! And every time he'd say a sentence, the entire UN assembly would burst into laughter, and continue laughing in fits and starts and so out of control,and as he'd continue with another sentence, there would be another raucious uproar, he would be banned for lack of dignity.

Parsley

[TOM4CWB]

Parsley,

You CAN'T SAY THAT... ITS DISCRIMINATION! LIBERAL discrimination at that! They will send the human rights commission after you... bar the doors... lock the gates... you are in big trouble!

GRIN { :

shame on you!

[parsley]

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[bduke]

I apologize for being tardy in my responses, however spraying fungicides and hosting summer company have consumed all my time and energy.

Mustardman re:NAFTA and resource jurisdiction....

Provincial rights to resources are National...All ex-Country exports are Federal....as per charter.

Energy...a little background...Mexico currently out produces Canada in oil production, by about 50,000 bpd, but their production is declining. The Mexican Gov't owns Pemex and tightly controls their energy production. The profits from Pemex flow to the Mexican Gov't which, because of politics, absorbs all the revenue it can and has not left money for exploration. Pemex also has National control of refined products as well...propane, butane, etc.

Canada is expected to increase oil production because of the Oil Sands, Bakken etc. to be increasing exports to 4 million bpd and we are expected to be using 2 million bpd. In fact Canada is set to overtake Saudi Arabia (i think)on the energy reserve list.

The US uses about 25% of World oil production and they needed energy security , i'm referring to CUSTA/NAFTA, and Mexico would not give at all on any chance of Foreign investment in their energy sector. Pemex was/is their cash cow.

Canada is also well positioned for oil/gas substitution with our uranium reserves. Substitution will be driven by high oil/gas prices, as the shortest route to peoples minds is through their wallets.

So...Canada was quite accommodating on energy security to the US in Nafta, but does have autonomy in extreme situations. We also have ensured US protection by their military. In times of shortages and terrorism security trumps all.

Parsley.....your question was " anyone think the Liberals will pick a new leader soon"?

My preference of Dion is as the Liberal leader, not Prime Minister. Have you conceded the next Fed election to the Liberals?

My concern is a new leader..probably Ignatief...would likely become the PM.

Dion is not as popular in Quebec as we might expect, and I think Quebec will once again determine the Gov't...Bill