CWB has to go

[parsley]

That's a little like taking the notion that if the CWB lost its' sales to Iraq, it's toast, because there are no potential sales.

Is that how you view the world jensend?

Audieces, and viewers and consumers and buyers are not fixed. They are fluid.

Lot more contributors now, on AV, than when Tom4CWB and I first began posting, many moons ago. charliep will notice the difference. Free-marketer thinking wants to talk, and exchange, and interplay.

Farmers can now disperse information on AV, in seconds, compared in the past, to, say, the CWB dispersing a quartery info bulletin to farmers.

We've finally moved from top down information dispersal to instant farmers sharing directly.

I like it. Do you?

Parsley

[agstar77]

The bitching will continue even if the CWB is gone, since there will be a need for several new groups to take over the function it carries out now.

[parsley]

Will it be the same as those overwhelming oats growers that now do the 24/7 bitching agianst the two plus groups that took over the Wheat Board's oats-marketing functions, now that oats is out of the Board?


Do you hear the tirades, and demonstrations and dissension of the oats growers in your ears? Oh, oh.

Hopefully...

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20021211/ai_n12661848

Good Luck.

Parsley

[cottonpicken]

Its going to be a glorious shark feeding frenzy.

I may have to park the tractor,pull up a seat at the computer and start buying all this cheap wheat the marketing guru's are willing to offer at such ridicuoluos prices.

Yes,most of the posters on this thread.

Agriville will become much more entertaining once we get the cwb gone because everybody will be talking about what their marketing plans are.

Whoops!

Seems most stopped talking about that,for some reason?

My chops are dripping.

[parsley]

Keep it up and they'll soon be bleeding.
LOL

Parsley

[charliep]

Cottonpicken

Just curious why in all other markets you are
willing to go for the gold so to speak and in wheat
you are willing to accept average? The CWB claim
to fame is being able to average sales over a 15 to
18 month period. Their premium is being able to
sell for consistently higher prices on a daily basis
via their market power and ability to use single
desk to price discriminate (page 43 annual report).
In an open market, you will choose when to
market and have your cash sales related to actual
business up the line to a exporter/domestic buyer
- not the relationship to the most recent PRO.
Cost of managing risk will come down.

So to look at the question in the title, you seem to
indicate for this debate the CWB should stay. Why?
To protect poor marketers from making bad
decisions?

[wilagro]

I would say that IF and WHEN the CWB is scrapped then the little guys will have to start all over again with "new style" Co-ops much like their fathers and grandfathers did with their "wheat pools". Only this time they should keep the government out of the equation as much as is possible and form a viable farmer owned trading organization.

Otherwise, they will be pawns of the big monopolistic grain traders for ever.

[bucket]

And you know what wilagro - you will probably be sitting in a room or on this website gaining valuable knowledge for your co-op from the very people you have been jawing with for the last while. No one wants to see farmers fail. But the cwb handcuffs our opportunities. A co-op is a good idea because someone can be held account. The cwb has stolen our wheat for 2 years now and no one is held to account for our dismal returns.

Its not ok for the cwb to blend my #1 durum with someone's crap and even it out to 8 bucks a bushel when my grains worth 15 and his is worthless. Why because the guy producing crap grain isn't paying my input bills.

[charliep]

wilagro

Hasn't the process you talk about with inland terminals and the purchase of the old UGG terminal in Vancouver started?

The assumption is the CWB will die in an open market setting. Why couldn't the CWB provide some of the services you talk about in an open market? If the federal government were to transition the CWB to a new open market world, what would this transition look like? How will the CWB change to survive?

[katoe]

Charlie you asked agood question how the cwb would operate.Perhaps the Ab Government could tell us.Or perhaps the grain companies would tell us how they would or if they would handle grain for the cwb.,which would be their competion.I know their are all kinds of self proclaimed expert on this site with all the hypothetical answers but I want to hear it from the governments and the grain companies how it is going to work.

[cottonpicken]

Dont get me wrong,i want them gone.

I just think the "average" farmer is going to have a tough time against an "average" trader.

I do agree with your statment about the wheat board adapting to survive and provide other services.

Maybe if they started charging a per acre marketing fee,like some private guys are doing,they would make more money.

[Ron]

how about if they get paid on commission, give them an incentive to get the most value from my grain? There seems to be no incentive for them other than to keep their cushy job (maintain the status quo)

SCREW THE CWB