Throwing your hat in the CWB Director-Ring?

[btjadenlepp]

wheat, peas, sunflowers, canola, oats or whatever, what's the diff?

[parsley]

btjadenlepp,
huh?

You want the CWB as a buyer of peas, sunflowers, canola, oats?

Parsley

[bduke]

I understand Brenda to be asking why wheat freight should be based differently than oats, canola, flax, etc.

The logic of having no freight or handling charges when hauling to flour mills or malt plants has long been suggested. Pooling sanctity tends to prevail.

The CWB did, and may still have an FAF...Freight Adjustment Factor....that increased the price of milling wheat in Southern Manitoba to reflect the lower cost of freight to the Minneapolis mills. If my memory is correct I think the CWB considered the proportions of wheats i.e. grades and proteins and the markets they filled, then used a pro rata adjustment. It seems the Manitoba catchment area could fill the Minneapolis market....but this was at least 10 years ago.....Bill

[btjadenlepp]

yes i meant price discovery should be the same for every crop. it would be much less confusing and time-consuming to make decisions about if/when/where/why to sell if standard market signals came through every price.

bill, the faf is still in play, in fact a recent change is going to smoke our winter wheat returns next year.

[parsley]

Sorry, brenda, my bleary eye crossed with my bleary mind and produced stupid.

Parsley

[Fransisco]

I figure the new FAF on winter wheat will make at least a $20 an acre difference in Manitoba. And that is a negative difference to all you monopoly fans out there in agriville.

What are your thoughts BJL? Am I being to conservative in my figuring?

[kryger]

Parsley,
If the CWB becomes voluntary, I can see no reason why they could not sell peas, canola, wheat, malt and feed barley, lentils, sunflowers. If we get a majority Conservative gov't, change the act to allow the board to sell or buy whatever they want. Chances are, they would survive.

[parsley]

IThe CWB issue is not soley a matter of being voluntary.

As it now stands, the CWB is a participant in a regime that has legislated railroads and flour mills and cleaning plants as being designated "works for the general advantage of Canada."

This current regulatory piece of legislation in the Canada Grain Act, working in tandem with the CWB Act, is the most insidious working model of fascism that I have been able to find in Canada.

Private enterprise cleaning plants and flour mill corporations and farmers' grain processing plants are regulated into pure submission by the reigning government of the day.

The CWB can veto afarmer's plant or what a Cargill can do in their plant, because legislatively, their plant ia a WORKS, for gawd's sake, for the general advantage of Canada.

Do you think Toyota Canada would put up with that hogwash? or John Deere?

It's gotta go. The system. The state-owned system. Even China is moving away from that.

So no, Kryger, just handing a man his license may mean he can sell the grain, but that doesn't necessarily mean there will be a company in CANADA that can buy his grain, or will build to buy his grain, or can even export his grain if that company is there simply as a "works for the general advantage".

When I compared the CWB to the herpes virus, I meant it. It doesn't go away It's interwoven to other pieces of legislation.

It pops up any old time in the most unexpected places and and at the most unexpected times.


Easterners knew that. And they extricated themselves. Permanemtly.

Parsley