CWB and friends need to come clean

[stubblejumper]

hearing alot of BS but no talk of marketing

[Fransisco]

Stubble, I'll say it again, year after year the CWB pools deliver you below average market returns. How do you feel about that? Do you call that marketing? What kind of marketing skill does it take to sell below the market?

[chaffmeister]

Stubblejumper! Wake up!

Are you comatose or is English your second language?!

You're being presented with a simple calculation that demonstrates clearly that the Canadian prairie economy is poorer by the BILLIONS because of the CWB. And all you can say is that you see no talk of marketing.!!!

Sheesh!!!! Get on the program, man!
We're talking about a huge amount of money here.

Think about it. The spring wheat pool is almost $100/tonne below average. At roughly a tonne per acre, this is equal to $16,000 per quarter. $64,000 per section. A quarter million on 2,500 acres. EACH YEAR.

You're out $100/tonne (below average prices) ANNUALLY and all you want to do is dissect whether we're talking about marketing or not??!!

What part of this is BS?

Go back up six posts - I outline what a free market is. I touch on marketing, but maybe its not clear enough for you. So here's a primer on marketing and what it entails:

1. Deciding what to grow - comparing net returns per acre - entering into contracts with buyers and end users.

2. Deciding what and when to store and what/when to ship.

3. Deciding what, when and how to price. Flat price or basis; futures or options; production contract or DDC; nearby delivery or deferred delivery (assess carrying charges).

4. Deciding who to supply - deciding to develop long term relationships, even with end users, where you need to work at satisfying end-use needs.

5. Deciding on what to invest in on your farm - what do you need to ensure you can deliver on your marketing plans and decisions.

Marketing is all about what to grow, how to grow it, building relationships, making commitments - and then satisfying those commitments.

If you think marketing is picking up the phone and asking for prices, then maybe you do need the CWB.

[TOM4CWB]

Chaffmeister,

Fear and greed drive the lefties.

They wouldn't want to allow a neighbour who was willing to work hard and take risk... the opportunity to prosper. THat would not be the communist/lefties way.

Coveting and expecting something for nothing... are an addicting habit... and very hard to break... once the thief is on the dole and tasted the forbidden fruit!

This has nthing to do with logic, economics... or prosperity... you should know better!

[Fransisco]

Tom, you're not giving enough due to 'ignorance' and 'arrogance'. I believe they deserve equal billing.

[TOM4CWB]

Stubble,


What is this?

"none of you so called marketers really wants to market grain"

Please explain what the CWB does?

The best example of price takers is the CWB!

1. Must sell so much each day/period to fit a specific time related plan...

2. No cost based over-rides (specific to my farms needs) to prevent give away dumping...

3. Don't know if they will be around for a day, a year, or a decade... because they decided to rely on government legislation to back a single desk monopoly... instead of customer good will and valued services to assure a business base.

4. CWB Takes resources of the most productive and innovative grain growers... and forces them to cross subsidise many livestock and hobby farmers.

About a close to a business disaster formula as one could dream up. (AND THIS IS MARKETING?)

So... what does a market... and a grower contract growing to supply specific IP requirements of end users... at a specific profit and supply contract actually mean Stubble?

How is what my farm does... any different than what you 'claim' the CWB when it does actually market grain (VS. PRACTICING GIVE AWAYS that were not theirs to give away in the first place)?

WHY EXACTLY AM I and my farm NOT MARKETERS?

[stubblejumper]

Tom why not run for the CWB again the same ten producers may vote for you again.

[Fransisco]

Stubble, why not answer some of the questions we've given you? Have you really nothing to say on the subject? Is this all just a joke to you? You're sure treating it like one.

[Jay-mo]

For those who are true CWB believers, there is no amount of facts and numbers that can or ever will convince them otherwise.
Its almost like a mental problem. Alot of these believers are otherwise rational good people but the topic of a free market vs the CWB monopoly comes up and their brains turn to mush. You can ask any logical question and they reply with a glazed eye, robotic chant about the CWB premiums.

[chaffmeister]

"It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf."
-- Walter Lippman

[TOM4CWB]

Stubble,

Why on earth would I need or want to run for a position on a dead horse... that has NO VISION FOR THE FUTURE... other than being a thief and stealing folks grain... deceiving... and whining to government to keep a franchise of corruption and theft to solve their only solution to stay afloat... be non-accountable non-transparent... and count on everyone being fools that are commercial grain growers they must serve?

If the CWB can pull off hoodwinking commercial 'designated area' grain growers this election... that will be the crime of the century... and biggest snow job/marketing coup ever!

OH DEAR... I forgot... the majority of 'designated area' grain growers who's financial interests are truly at risk... will not likely decide the outcome of this election.... 'Goodales Revenge'... at work AGAIN...

ENJOY while you can... Grainbeatle... your day in the sun will self destruct...

NOT WHAT I WANT... BUT WHAT YOU FOLKS ARE REQUIREING of commercial grain growers in the 'designated area". Cut our losses... simply to remain competitive and in business.

'There are none so blind... as those who refuse to see.'

[bucket]

Look at what flaman said in the WP. He is a rat fleeing a sinking ship. He wants no part of it. Funny - he wants to run for the liberals - thats a even bigger sinking ship.

Its a perfect example of someone who took care of his own interests and now that he may not be able to do that he goes home with his marbles and won't play. He is one spoiled board supporter.

[highwayman]

Stubble
It is truly incredible to contiunually watch the likes of you and your kangaroo socialist court to completely deny the facts and hard numbers that are presented,documented and verified here. When questioned you run and hide and change the subject. What is it of an open and free market that scares you so much? Why are you so afraid to stand on your own two feet without the crutch of confiscating and stealing your neighbors grain? Read the previous posts again and please open your eyes. If you could actually come up with and intelligent rebutal I,m sure we would all love to here it.