CWB Price ' WHAT is a PREMIUM'?

[parsley]

"hunting" in obscure financial records can highlight some very strange and unusual alliances and relationships.

[parsley]

A dumb question for you cityguy:

Let's say the choice candidates win three more seats. Is choice guaranteed? iow, how will the Minister instruct his appointed directors to vote?

[parsley]

Farmers often speculate on who will pocket lots of money when grain prices rise. Rightly so. But maybe the more interesting question is: Who will pocket more money if grain prices are kept low. Pars

[silverback]

The alberta government at some point decided to become a bunch of little joe clarks and try not to ruffle the feathers of the progressive members of society. The only thing they have done is to ensure we progressively get lower prices than we deserve.

Some of us are trying to ensure that some future government might take up the fight and free us of this albatross. Of course the whining babies from Sask and Man. would cry that the big bad grain companies will swoop in and destroy us all.

(Funny, we don't seem to hear much from the supposed pro choice directors anymore either)

[vvalk]

Cityguy. The problem is that the east does care ALOT about the CWB. As long as the CWB exists then so does supply management. Better to have the CWB in the cross hairs then their beloved supply management. Why do you think the Bloc votes in favor of the CWB in all cases. Its their first line of defense.
Second as long as there are 50 60 or 70 thousand voters voting in the CWB elections when maybe 7000 farms do 85% of the production, a vote will never work. Never mind that you shouldnt be voting on a rights issue anyways.

[parsley]

An exceptionally well-expressed view, vvalk, as well as accurate. Pars

[cityguy]

Not going to argue on the vote. Would say that the "Shareholders" with a share being a tonne of delivery should determine the direction of the board. That being said, the voting system for this coming fall is what it is. So I ask the question again, are the pro-choice people going to yet again watch their "votes" get split 5 ways and watch the anti-choice walk right up the middle?

[TOM4CWB]

Cityguy,

Goodale/NDP/Bloc still control the CWB's destiny... as long as a minority Parliament in Ottawa.

Lawyers/Courts stop Minister Ritz from doing more... backed by Supply Management / CFA.

Provinces can do nothing to stop CWB as the is a 'Trade and Commerce' constitutional issue that CDN Courts ruled many times is federal jurisdiction. Alberta has challenged Ottawa powers many times... and lost every time. Take GST. Direct taxation is the exclusive jurisdiction of the Provinces. Yet the courts give the power to the feds without constitutional authority.

I would be surprised if you didn't already know this.

AS long as Ottawa is Minority Parliament... Goodale prevents any real change.

Honesty and transparency would be a nice change... and a logical expectation.

In the 'designated area' we are free;


Free to do what we are told to do by eastern Canada.

But we are true Canadians... wouldn't hurt a fly... torch a police car... or even demonstrate any more.

We made our point in 1996... 14 years later the CWB still is a monopoly in the soul of Canada... thanks to Goodale/the Liberals. THe lasting legacy he is proud of!

[TOM4CWB]

Cityguy;

Preferential Ballots do not split votes.

Goad us on.

Oberg wouldn't have been elected the first time in district 5 if you knew what you were talking about. Oberg does not even live in District 5.

[charliep]

I highlight the 2010 CWB survey results and differences in attitudes
between age groups. Things will change over time.

Whatever party is in office in Ottawa, the most important issue is
governance and the establishment of some form of contingency fund.
Regardless of your view on single desk versus open market, this is a key
issue to CWB survival.

The original posting was about premiums but I note that the
$240/tonne CIF sale to the Saudi was likely at a discount to current
domestic feed market when backed off to the prairies. We don't the
actual price and maybe the above is German wheat/CWB sold for a
higher but work the price to prairie position. The issue is the CWB can
make sales as a single desk without the discipline of having to go the
market to source supplies from prairie farmers. US industry couldn't
make this sale because they couldn't source the grain via contracts or
hedge it. They had the discipline of the market.