6 Guys want CWB, The rest of Western Canada Don't!

[SASKFARMER3]

It seems to me that maybe its time to finally have a simple vote. Yes or No, not a wishy washy 20 line question just a plain and simple question yes I want the CWB to stay or no time to shut it down.
Let the liberals and NDP give their side. BLA BLA BLA and then let us farmers give ours. KILL IT>
Simply when facts are presented like whats happening every single other place in the world and yet Western Canadian farmers get paid the least the CWB supporters go and hide and wont comment. Yet when its just rhetoric etc they come out in full force. Come on Harper get some balls and kill this puppy. Yes it wouldn't be till 2011 because again the CWB calender closed on Sunday with a new crop year so western farmers wouldn't be able to achieve their freedom till summer of 2011.

[Burbert]

YEAH and everybody wants the gun registry gone!!!! Guess what? It's still here and now boat drivers are registered to!!! Wake up, just cause you want it, doesn't mean you're gonna get it........

[samhill]

I believe it would be better to ask for dual marketing
rather than elimination of CWB. Should be more
politically acceptable and still offers pooling for those
who believe in it. If they do not offer any change then
we should ask that only red heads pay taxes.

[booboo04]

Single desk or dual desk? Oh, but the third option is best.... keep the CWB as is, but let me out of their fascist control. Just think, the CWB supporters can have the CWB, I will be out of the CWB, and as I have said several times "under those conditions I would sign a waiver that says I never want back in". Myself, and obviously some of the participants in this forum, would be better off. One last condition would have to be... the guys who want the CWB and support it strongly should be forced to stay in the CWB. In that world everyone had the choice and everyone is happy.

[silverback]

Like Parsley says, it's about no-cost export licenses. There is no reason on earth why we are subject to these rules and Ontario and the Creston valley are not!

I wonder what our supposed pro choice directors have to say about things at the moment?

Pretty quiet...

[oldjim]

Cheer up everyone...just checked the CWB site, a 25% call for durum has just been announced! Goes to show, get the price low enough and somebody will buy.

[wmoebis]

It will be interesting to see how much durum gets offered on A series at these prices. Same as if lentils were at say .06 cents. How cheap are guys willing to sell?

[Gerald_sk]

Why so mad at the wheat broad. It has nothing to do with price. It
gives everybody the chance to sell grain without contracting 6 months
before you know if you can produce any product. If you are so good with
price forecasts, buy and sell paper, that is where the real money
is made these days.
As for dual marketing it will never work. The grain trade doesn't
want the CWB. If dual market comes into play the CWB will be shut
out of the present elevator system.
The Canola and other markets are getting to be a bad joke. You
can't sell a bushel until you have a contract months before. After
you sign you go on the list and wait. Last fall the wait time
was 3 months. Viterra's September contract where getting called in
December and maybe January and always they needed the product yesterday.
Special crops are a real mess. Once you sign, if the price goes up they
need the product. If the price drops you get on the wait list where
they hope the product spoils, or need the cash and market elsewhere.
Had a relation that is still waiting for last years mustard to be picked
up.
What really makes my laugh is all the comments that wheat board
is the reason for these other programs. If that was so, why is the
US farmer the most subsidized operation in the world. I know they
say no, but when you look at all programs and taxes, I would say
they surpass all others. Few months ago I read where one program
could be paying $80/acre on soft wheat.
One other comment I picked up off another board. 85% of grain
sold in the US are sold in to lower 1/3 of the years price.

[samhill]

I think the grain trade favours the CWB. How much
wheat would be shipped through export terminals if
open market? How much wheat would be railed
east/west w/o the CWB? Keeping feed grain prices
depressed helps feeders, who owns the big feedlots
and barns? Since handling charges are guaranteed,
who benefits? If there are any trade disputes, who pays
the bill? If there are any labour strikes, who foots the
bill?
I have lots of questions, what are your thoughts?

[wmoebis]

If we were getting $10-$12/ bus for wheat there wouldn't be a word spoken. However the world market isn't paying that so we have to blame somebody and we are all better marketers than the people we higher to market for us. We know when to sell and hit the high markets all the time and tap into the niche markets only, to get highest returns.

Grain companies are our partners the CWB is our enemy.

Grain company's job is to show good returns for thier share holders they do this buy increasing market share both in grain handling and input sales so they have to keep farmers comming through the door as all thier profits for the share holders have come out of farmers pockets. Hense they will give us the best deal to keep us comming.

The CWB only sells grain for us so they can't give extra breaks and make it back up on cleaning, blending, trucking, drying, fert or chem sales. They only sell into a world market and return that price back to us less the cost of doing buissness.

How can we ever make profit when we have our marketing arm selling into world market and competing against our input partners? We sell wholesale and buy retail. If grain companies could increase grain prices they could increase all other costs to us. If we could sell on own to our markets for a higher price input dealers could raise costs and show a better profit.

Accredited exporters could be selling into higher markets, if they were there, but what good does that do them they have to return profits to the CWB to be given to farmers.

[Fransisco]

Neither the grain companies or the CWB are my partners. Both are in the business of making money for themselves from my grain. The CWB doesn't work for the farmer any more than anyone else, in fact it's a lot less.

What keeps the grain companies in line is competition from other grain companies and a farmers ability to just say "no" to any and all of them.

There is nothing and no one keeping the CWB in line. When it comes to board grains it is a completely undisciplined market. Which is why farmers get screwed far worse by the CWB than they ever have by any grain company.

[stubblejumper]

fran it sounds like you work for a grain company.

[Fransisco]

Well, I don't.

[ajl]

You have to remember that the six guys live in Ontario and they do not want your wheat competing in their markets so the CWB stays.