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    No surprises from PM Harper... 'Incrementalism'

    John Ivison, nationalpost.com, Last Updated: May 6, 2011 7:13 PM ET

    OTTAWA — Stephen Harper, a cautious man, has learned that “surprises are not generally well received by the public.’’ He told reporters last week that, as to matters between his government and the public, ‘‘We will move forward with what they are comfortable with.” That clearly does not include introducing legislation on the death penalty, abortion or gay marriage. To do so would open up the middle ground of Canadian politics to the Liberal Party — the last thing the Prime Minister wants to do. The “hidden agenda” stuff mooted by his wild-eyed critics is just plain silly.

    But no one should imagine that this is a government without ideological convictions. Mr. Harper’s conservatism is bred in his bones and over the next four years, now that he controls the Commons, we can expect to see the centre of political gravity being nudged subtly to the right — just as it has for the past five years. So where will he move?

    We already know about his intention to kill the gun registry and the party political subsidy; his plans to reform the Senate and to introduce the crime package aimed at making Canada more punitive than it has traditionally been. During the election, Mr. Harper talked of little else but the economy and the need for a stable national government. It is clear his first order of business will be to introduce, or perhaps re-introduce, a budget. Other big ticket items this year will be trade and security negotiations with the U.S. and the European Union.

    We could also see movement on healthcare. In Calgary this week, Mr. Harper said there is room for experimentation but he will not question the fundamentals of the system. At the same time, he also knows the system is unsustainable without reform — and that the public is willing to contemplate private involvement to improve quality and contain costs.

    We will certainly see the growth in government spending curtailed in the coming years – though that, of course, does not mean program spending will drop in absolute terms (The budget introduced in March projected total expenses rising over $300-billion for the first time within four years. Since then, in their election platform, the Tories have pledged to cut $11-billion in spending, on top of the $11-billion they claim they have already identified in past strategic reviews). The realization of Brian Mulroney’s promise of “pink slips and running shoes” for federal civil servants is likely to cause consternation in Ottawa but probably not much further afield.

    These will be just the first of a number of measures designed in gradual fashion to make Canada a more conservative country, now that the Tories are not encumbered by the opposition parties. But, in doing so, Mr. Harper knows he has to bring Canadians along with him — and to respect the linguistic, ethnic, racial and religious differences in the country.

    It is instructive to look back at the speech Mr. Harper gave at the Tory convention in Winnipeg in November, 2008, when he first spoke of the Conservative Party being “Canada’s party” — “the biggest, broadest and most national of Canada’s parties.” That trend has been re-inforced by an election in which the party won 48% of the vote outside Quebec.

    In that speech he talked about “conservative values being Canadian values” – curious because he used to get wound up when the Liberals used to appropriate the “values” proposition. He defined those values as “love of country; commitment to community; devotion to family; respect for peace, order and law; and reward for risk and hard work.” In an interview during the 2008 election, he told me he didn’t see this as a “theological agenda.” Rather, the importance of family could be emphasized through tax measures.

    While Mr. Harper is not a typical hard-line social conservative, he has no time for the moral relativism of the left. He sees himself as classical liberal, in the mould of Edmund Burke, the Anglo-Irish political theorist who advocated organic reform. In a speech to Civitas, a Conservative interest group, in 2003, he said Canada must rediscover and re-establish the fundamentals of Burkean social conservatism. “That means taking steps to promote and protect the traditional family, banning child pornography, raising the age of sexual consent, strengthening the institution of marriage and providing choice in education.”

    Yet, in keeping with the view of him as a gradualist, he said policies must not be denominational. “[They] must attract believers of as many creeds and faith as possible. We must realize that real gains are inevitably incremental. Conservatives should be satisfied if the agenda is moving in the right direction, even if slowly.”

    In the 2008 interview with the National Post, he used similar language to describe the convergence of the country and his party. “We’re moving the country in the right direction and the party is becoming, I wouldn’t say centrist, I’d say maybe more pragmatic. I’ve learned that myself,” he said. At that time, he warned his political base that, although he recognized he has to deliver something for them, they would have to understand they cannot get everything they want. “We represent many interests, not just within the party, but [also] the broad interests of the Canadian population,” he said.

    According to a nationwide post-election study of opinions carried out by Ensight Canada this week, voters gave Stephen Harper a mandate with clear and specific boundaries – get on with fixing the economy and don’t deviate on an ideological course. Canadians want lower taxes, less regulation, less spending and more foreign investment but won’t tolerate him veering off to pursue hard right policies, Ensight said.

    A dispassionate look at Canada in 2011 suggests it has not changed fundamentally from the Canada of 2005. Tom Flanagan, a professor of political science at the University of Calgary and Mr. Harper’s former mentor, wrote recently that there have been no major constitutional or institutional changes under the Conservatives; Liberal policies in public spending have continued, including the military build-up started under Paul Martin. The combat mission in Afghanistan started by the Liberals was extended. The personal and corporate tax cuts initiated by the Liberals were continued. True, the Conservatives didn’t proceed with the Kelowna Accord or the national public daycare system but there have been few relatively few genuinely dramatic policy shifts.

    At the same time, Mr. Harper has consolidated gains that are almost imperceptible. If he serves his full term, he will pass Brian Mulroney to become Canada’s sixth longest serving Prime Minister. One suspects that by the next election, Mr. Harper will consider his Prime Ministership a success if he judges conservatism has become the natural governing philosophy of Canada.

    #2
    The "visage" we saw election night of a Prime Minister truly humbled, and grateful for the confidences of Canadians made me very proud to be a Conservative!

    This is a man who did not go into politics to line his own politics, or to be on a podium with great fan fair, but because he believes he will leave this country better by his service.

    And I believe he will. I welcome incrementalism.

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      #3
      sorry meant to say... Line his own pockets.. but I suppose politics applies too! Now get seeding and off the darn computer!

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        #4
        The oilmen and bankers pockets are gonna be lined you can count on that one, when he gets punted he'll become a banker or oil exec with the job already waiting. We'll see about health care, everyday families well being, lots of dicktators were good bullshitters that's how they got to power and when reality caught up we see where they ended up.
        Our only hope is that within the conservative party that the true centre conservatives overtake the reform nuts, then we could have some good or even better than government I agree, but too early to judge him based on a smooth speach. He's being cautious because he's feeling out how far he can start out in the right field boonies before the true blues start to yell.

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          #5
          Are you sure you are not talking about Paul Martin.

          The man that registers his ships in bermuda for tax reasons.

          The man that when he was prime minister could not give a shit about farmers and now is a large shareholder in one earth farms. And just got farmers to buy him some ships that he will own for nickels on the dollar.

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            #6
            Those are valid points bucket, but he is not pm now. A speach is nothing without action. I can say though that in times past the liberals were much willing to help out in times like these. Time will tell is there going to be any assistance if this crop doesn't get seeded? I know early to talk about it but for some the writing is on the wall in terms of not seeding and otherewise as well particualarly back to back years like this. Their 18 dollars last year was a joke. the agriflopability is a joke for most. So we'll see if the righties that gonna be up against the wall with no crop if they are still gonna be so no gov assistance or not after the shit hits the fan on their own farms?

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              #7
              And chretien is doing what now? He obviously was a saint and never did anything to line his own pockets or his families.

              Harper has done nothing to warrant such baseless accusations.

              Don't be a typical liberal for once.

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                #8
                Chretien? Jeez we are really going back in time, don't we want to deal with today? But since we are Chretien is likely hauling all his money around with those paper bags, you know the ones Mulroney used in a hotel in New York. And boy he sure wasn't making deals while in the pm office was he? If Stevie wasnt't the pm when that shit went down we'd maybe know the whole truth but the reformers were just so determined to hush that shit up weren't they!

                Merely asking a question that is on many people's mind what is the position on assistance for not being able to seed.

                Merely making a comment alot of leaders were and are good bullshitters, the proof of their leadership will play out in what they do not what they just say.

                Answer this question was money used to build a shithouse hundred or so miles away from g8 with g8 money just so someone gets re elected?

                Did oda change a legal document?

                Is agriculture funding going to get slashed even more than it is?

                What is in the afghan detainie report?

                What is in the governor general report?

                That stuff is not going away. Some of you are in a lala land that the majority means Stevie is a new man. We'll see.

                etc etc etc.

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                  #9
                  Chretien? Jeez we are really going back in time, don't we want to deal with today? But since we are Chretien is likely hauling all his money around with those paper bags, you know the ones Mulroney used in a hotel in New York. And boy he sure wasn't making deals while in the pm office was he? If Stevie wasnt't the pm when that shit went down we'd maybe know the whole truth but the reformers were just so determined to hush that shit up weren't they!

                  Merely asking a question that is on many people's mind what is the position on assistance for not being able to seed.

                  Merely making a comment alot of leaders were and are good bullshitters, the proof of their leadership will play out in what they do not what they just say.

                  Answer this question was money used to build a shithouse hundred or so miles away from g8 with g8 money just so someone gets re elected?

                  Did oda change a legal document?

                  Is agriculture funding going to get slashed even more than it is?

                  What is in the afghan detainie report?

                  What is in the governor general report?

                  That stuff is not going away. Some of you are in a lala land that the majority means Stevie is a new man. We'll see.

                  etc etc etc.

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                    #10
                    sorry for double post. and should have read auditor general report not governor general report.

                    inch and a half to 2 inches possible for some areas i see now, holy crap, what would be the unseeded area estimate? i'd say 2 to 3 times last years amount.

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                      #11
                      alzheimers must be on the way, forgot to mention also, Do you really want to piss off typical liberals Silverback? Because they are the reason Stevie has a majority, it came down to liberals thinking that with Jack's rush he may have become the pm so we stopped it, to take a lesser of 2 evils, thinking they would give stevie a minority but it backfired and they gave the majority.

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                        #12
                        Certainly, no one can individually assume the role of welcoming committee to the awakened Liberals, however I note that the migration that took place in Saskatchewan whereby now the convention can truly be held in a phone booth, may be occurring nationally; welcome Liberals you may want to get comfortable here.

                        The few that voted for unknown candidates in the west were steadfast in the heritage of voting unconditionally just because they were Liberal, not for any hope of forming the government. For, those pragmatic citizens recognizing the migration of the natural governing party to the Conservatives we welcome you!

                        We have a similar task.

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                          #13
                          riders2010

                          You make good points but it is not too early start talking assistance. Lenders and suppliers don't give a shit about how wet it is. ANd everyone knows we are 3 weeks behind already. Every tenth of rain makes mud where usually in saskatchewan it just slows a guy down enough to have a coffee break.

                          Unusual times call for unusual actions and it will be interesting to see if harper and team comes through.

                          I am one of those who believe you should not lose your farm because of 1 in 300 years weather situation. Unfortunately in our area anyone in a tight spot is getting bought up by a generation farm with daddy's/grandaddy's money.

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                            #14
                            I respect both your comments, hopefully mine is respected as well. In my opinion the majority was a fluke. Generally people were satisfied with a conservative minority saving decision for a majority when steve was replaced as well as iggy and jack. But when jack's popularity took off and the best the liberal leaders offerred was to parade chretien and martin around jack took off even more. People like myself at the centre of the spectrum vote liberal or conservative if the party is mostly at centre, we also vote for a certain canditate but more recently less and less for candidate because candidates have very little say, look what happenned in quebec. Quebecers certainly did not vote for the candidate that was in vegas, they voted because they hate stevie.

                            I am not stuck in vote this or that because i always did, i would like to see us actually for once vote for something instead of voting against the rest. I can't stand chretien and mulroney as much as anyone else.

                            This restructuring of votes all took place in what about 10 days, that wasn't long enough for the population to figure out the implications of their vote so this resulted, coupled with the massive money used to buy off certain ridings, in my opinion improperly used g8 money etc.

                            If the reform stays in control we will see the 51st state result where the us will control us by way of controling our oil and our politics.

                            If the centre conservatives take over the party possibly centre liberals will stay the course could be as i have said best govwernment in a long time. Jack will fall apart, i just found out today they even have a former communist elected as an ndp mp, unless my info was wrong. That shows how much steve and the reform is hated outside of the prairies.

                            But get rid of cwb, i want it, expect it, change the ag programs to be less intrusive and administratively bizarre and more effective, these were a factor of why i voted conservative in past. Reform does not believe in any assistance so it will be interesting if the reform will respond to this situation or the conservatives.

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                              #15
                              I think quebec went for Jack because they have found by being on the opposite side, the federal government gives them more.

                              Do I think harper is disliked in quebec? No, but strategically it was better to go with the ndp. They were sick of duceppe and I think you can thank harper for that.

                              You have to look at positives, Canada is now run by federalist parties. And the threat of separatism is on the back burners for a while which in itself makes us a more stable country.

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