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    OTTAWA — The Harper government is moving ahead with plans to shut down the Canadian Wheat Board, even before the results of a plebiscite on the agency's future are known.


    A posting on a government contracting website shows Agriculture Canada is looking for an auditor to crunch the costs associated with closing the so-called "single-desk" marketing agency.


    It announces the government intends to seek an auditor to check the books and "provide reasonable assurance of the total financial impact of the repeal of the Canadian Wheat Board Act and the dissolution or winding up of the CWB after the final pooling periods (expected to be July 31, 2012)."


    The contract value for the auditing work is projected at $500,000 to $1 million and only pre-qualified suppliers are eligible to bid on the work.


    Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz announced in May the government's intention to shutter the board by August of next year — a move that will require passing legislation in the House of Commons.


    The non-binding plebiscite on the board's future, run by the Wheat Board, is underway now with the results to be revealed Sept. 9.


    But the notice of proposed procurement posting suggests the government is proceeding regardless of the results.


    Allen Oberg, chairman of the Wheat Board, says the board has already done its own analysis of the costs of shutting down using accounting firm KPMG.


    "The Wheat Board doesn't cost the government of Canada anything," he said. "Now, the government is going to be stuck for costs of wind up, in the hundreds of millions."


    The costs, he says, would be typical of closing any large corporation — penalties for cancelling contracts, employee severance and payments for outstanding pension liabilities.


    Who ultimately pays for the closure — whatever the costs are determined to be — is an open question. Oberg says that federal government is obligated to pay.


    Although he doesn't know the results of the plebiscite, he says he's heard very strong support for the board from farmers.


    "The wind-up costs might be more justified if it was farmers themselves who are asking for changes."


    The auditing contract requires the supplier to compile a lists of the board's assets and liabilities, determine that all potential liabilities and contractual obligations are documented and review termination clauses for staff.


    Agriculture Canada said it was unable to provide a comment Thursday.



    Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Auditors sought crunch closing costs Wheat Board/5243436/story.html#ixzz1Un00cUUH

    #2
    JHC now our wheat customers get paid out because we are dissmantling our CWB. Great just great.

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      #3
      The CWB has long term contracts to give away wheat at bargain basement prices. These contracts should be given the pink slip along with the employees. Hey nobody gives me severence. Maybe the audit will find out lots of kickbacks and irregularitys

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        #4
        The government should be starting a full financial
        audit immediately. Since there has never been
        one done, the auditors may have a quite a few
        questions.

        If no light has ever been shed in some corners,
        who knows what might scurry out when an
        auditor comes around.

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          #5
          With any luck at all when the auditors are crunching the shut down numbers, maybe they will stumble across a couple of points of interest.

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            #6
            It was oil for food that brought down
            the AWB. Tax evasion took down Al
            Capone. Sponsor gate took down the
            Liberals.... John Gormleys Canadian
            best selling book "Left Out"
            Saskatchewan s NDP and the relentless
            pursuit of Mediocrity.

            Had a great chapter on NDP
            mismanagement and the culture of cover
            ups. I hope there's nothing in the CWB.

            Of course the Government is going to get
            some outside help to verify the CWB
            numbers regarding the wind-up costs.  
            Only makes sense.   They are certainly
            not going to simply accept the CWB’s
            word on this.
             
            Oberg is trying to make hay out of this,
            but I don’t think his argument is going
            to wash.   I’m sure there’s going to be
            costs involved in winding up the long-
            gun registry too.   That’s hardly a
            reason for not going ahead with the
            change in policy.

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              #7
              Ritz has men inside the BOD. Does he not take thier word? Why are they so quiet to the public?

              He is taking the railroad and grain co's word that things will be better without the board. Is he having an audit on thier word?

              I'm not saying your wrong but I have herd the CWB's side lets here how the rail is going to be better. How is the grain Co's going to be better for farmers?

              Not second hand propaganda but right from thier BOD's.

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                #8
                wmoebis,

                The 8 think alike CWB directors rule the CWB.

                15 total Directors. Chairman Oberg is the only one allowed to speak for these 8 on the CWB who rule the roost pubically.

                Corporate governance rules and protocol have tied the hands of the 7 Marketing Choice advocates who have no choice... pubically... but to remain silent.

                It is perhaps helpful... that Chairman Oberg is now clearly indicating just how little he understands about running a multi $B Co... and working in the real world where those responsible pay... when they make a mess of things!

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                  #9
                  Can you tell us the consequences of what would happen if 7 directors held a press conference to talk about their views on the future of the cwb?

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                    #10
                    Exactly, silver. The worst that could happen would be they get voted off, and then Ritz could appoint another batch.

                    And repeat.
                    And repeat.

                    Soon, suspicion about what the CWB is doing internally would reign.

                    The sitting grunts loooooove their meetings and pension plans, is what I guess.

                    Grown men stuffed full of themselves have not yet grown up. Pars

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                      #11
                      Probably would not happen silver as those 7 know what board governance is and let the chair speak for the board. No one ever wins, least of all the corporation, when rogue directors speak their own personal views. Ugly.

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                        #12
                        Yes, well, to sit on your hands while the CWB bought ships was not in the interest of farmers.

                        There can be a stark difference between the interest of the corporation vs the interest of farmers.

                        Farmers essentially have had NO say how their money is spent except for one elected voice, who, it appears, has a keen interest in his pay, pension and perks. In other words, the status quo.

                        The old herd mentality gone amiss is so irresistible isn't it, in the name of solidarity, puke, puke: the property-smashing mob in Vancouver differs little from the economic-smashing mob at the CWB.

                        Somebody has to pay the bills, don't they.

                        Both directormob and youthmob are indefensible.

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                          #13
                          You are likely right Tom. But what about the railroads and the grain companies? I don't think they are under a gag order.

                          I would like to hear, in a "public meeting" such as the CWB did, what they have been telling the Gov't how they will make it better under an open system. Farmers should be the ones hearing first hand how it will improve, Not the gov't. It is our lively hood not thiers.

                          I went to the CWB meeting and would also go to RR and every grain co's meeting. Public info from BOD from both sides is good. So far we have a one sided debate and a bunch of propaganda.

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                            #14
                            I'm not sure if things will be better Wmoebis but
                            at least when Theres a problem or dispute we
                            can share the costs with the railroad and grain
                            cos shareholders instead of being the only one
                            paying . It may help settle the disputes alot
                            quicker if farmers don't get stuck with the whole
                            cost. In a recurring dream a large grain company
                            will take CN and CP out behind the legal
                            woodshed and teach them a lesson in reality us
                            farmers will still get screwed. Oh well still good to
                            dream .

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                              #15
                              But Parsely, isn't that why you elect a board?

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