Just though I would bring it back up to the top.
chuckChuck:
I know you asked Larry these questions, but I’d like to take a shot at them. (I’d
also like your response to my questions about plagiarizing economists.)
"When have you ever debated any of the economists I have mentioned in a
detailed public forum?"
Never – but I’m more than willing to.
"Why would you expect me to explain the work of KFT, Gray, Schmitz?"
Because if you're going to hold them up to some sort of gold standard, it only
makes sense that you would know enough about them and their methodology
and analysis to defend them. Otherwise you are showing your ideology –
putting them out there as all-knowing oracles without anything to back your
position except that you like their message.
"All I need to do is read their conclusions."
Really? Even when some of those conclusions are mine? (I wrote the 2004
Sparks barley study – you know, the one Schmitz, Schmitz and Gray copied.)
You still trust these guys knowing they cheat? With all due respect, what does
that say about you?
"Academics have to back up their work and defend their work in front of their
peers."
Wrong. Only if they are submitting their work to be published in their
association’s journal – like the Canadian Journal of Agricultural Economics.
Not one of the CWB-commissioned studies you refer to have ever been “peer-
reviewed”. I think it was Andy Schmitz that said that peer review would be
impossible because these "studies" deal with confidential information. So
even the academics themselves confirm that their work is NOT peer-reviewed.
"Where are your peer reviewed papers on the subject?"
www.cwbmonitor.blogspot.com Not peer-reviewed as you see it, but all these
analyses are completely open with data and information sources provided
and discussion welcomed. And I often have academics contact me to discuss
and give their thumbs up. I welcome any and all open debates.
"What are your qualifications? Do you have Phd in Ag Econ?"
Is that the only pre-requisite? Funny, the criticism aimed at me for what I write
often comes with “Are you a farmer?”
For the record - I am not a farmer nor do I have a PhD. I have a bachelor
degree in agriculture (BSA) and a Masters in Business Administration (MBA)
in Agri-business. Since we're sharing, what are your qualifications?
"Do you not stand to benefit in an open market?"
We all do – even you.
"Supply management is part of ag. policy in this country. So is the CWB. What
we have is an incoherant inconsistent ag policy in this country. Why is that not
an issue worth discussing?"
It is. I’m surprised you don’t think it is being discussed.
"Why are their two classes of farmers, one protected by tarrifs and supply
mangement and the rest of us. Why not bring back a domestic price for grains
protected with tarrifs as well? If it increases dairy farm incomes why not for
grains?"
So, to be clear, you want to raise the cost of grain-based foods. I’ll ask all
those single parents I know and those on fixed incomes how they feel about
that.
"So I take it you want GM wheat even when the majority of our customers don't
want it? Why doesn't the US introduce GM wheat first? What are they waiting
for? Did you learn anything from the flax fiasco?"
About GM anything – why do you think the industry would go for GM wheat
when customers don’t want it? I was at the board meeting of the Canola
Council of Canada when Monsanto proposed a closed loop system to do field
test trials for GM canola. This was at a time when no canola customers wanted
it. The focus quickly went to who is liable if some errant GM canola seeds
found their way into the commercial system. Monsanto didn’t have a good
answer. The reaction by the CCC board was swift and “expressive”. Under no
uncertain terms were they about to sanction these trials. I was sure glad I
wasn’t that Monsanto rep. Only once canola customers agree to GM canola
did we go there. Same would happen with wheat.
chuckChuck:
I know you asked Larry these questions, but I’d like to take a shot at them. (I’d
also like your response to my questions about plagiarizing economists.)
"When have you ever debated any of the economists I have mentioned in a
detailed public forum?"
Never – but I’m more than willing to.
"Why would you expect me to explain the work of KFT, Gray, Schmitz?"
Because if you're going to hold them up to some sort of gold standard, it only
makes sense that you would know enough about them and their methodology
and analysis to defend them. Otherwise you are showing your ideology –
putting them out there as all-knowing oracles without anything to back your
position except that you like their message.
"All I need to do is read their conclusions."
Really? Even when some of those conclusions are mine? (I wrote the 2004
Sparks barley study – you know, the one Schmitz, Schmitz and Gray copied.)
You still trust these guys knowing they cheat? With all due respect, what does
that say about you?
"Academics have to back up their work and defend their work in front of their
peers."
Wrong. Only if they are submitting their work to be published in their
association’s journal – like the Canadian Journal of Agricultural Economics.
Not one of the CWB-commissioned studies you refer to have ever been “peer-
reviewed”. I think it was Andy Schmitz that said that peer review would be
impossible because these "studies" deal with confidential information. So
even the academics themselves confirm that their work is NOT peer-reviewed.
"Where are your peer reviewed papers on the subject?"
www.cwbmonitor.blogspot.com Not peer-reviewed as you see it, but all these
analyses are completely open with data and information sources provided
and discussion welcomed. And I often have academics contact me to discuss
and give their thumbs up. I welcome any and all open debates.
"What are your qualifications? Do you have Phd in Ag Econ?"
Is that the only pre-requisite? Funny, the criticism aimed at me for what I write
often comes with “Are you a farmer?”
For the record - I am not a farmer nor do I have a PhD. I have a bachelor
degree in agriculture (BSA) and a Masters in Business Administration (MBA)
in Agri-business. Since we're sharing, what are your qualifications?
"Do you not stand to benefit in an open market?"
We all do – even you.
"Supply management is part of ag. policy in this country. So is the CWB. What
we have is an incoherant inconsistent ag policy in this country. Why is that not
an issue worth discussing?"
It is. I’m surprised you don’t think it is being discussed.
"Why are their two classes of farmers, one protected by tarrifs and supply
mangement and the rest of us. Why not bring back a domestic price for grains
protected with tarrifs as well? If it increases dairy farm incomes why not for
grains?"
So, to be clear, you want to raise the cost of grain-based foods. I’ll ask all
those single parents I know and those on fixed incomes how they feel about
that.
"So I take it you want GM wheat even when the majority of our customers don't
want it? Why doesn't the US introduce GM wheat first? What are they waiting
for? Did you learn anything from the flax fiasco?"
About GM anything – why do you think the industry would go for GM wheat
when customers don’t want it? I was at the board meeting of the Canola
Council of Canada when Monsanto proposed a closed loop system to do field
test trials for GM canola. This was at a time when no canola customers wanted
it. The focus quickly went to who is liable if some errant GM canola seeds
found their way into the commercial system. Monsanto didn’t have a good
answer. The reaction by the CCC board was swift and “expressive”. Under no
uncertain terms were they about to sanction these trials. I was sure glad I
wasn’t that Monsanto rep. Only once canola customers agree to GM canola
did we go there. Same would happen with wheat.
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