perplexed

[wilagro]

malleefarmer: Well we hate to see you so perplexed, but the simple truth is that our current CWB which isn't the old CWB and is run ENTIRELY by government employees and MANAGED and counseled by a government APPOINTED Board of Directors. There is NO farmer input allowed whatsoever. That would never do.

It operates with the pleasure of the Minister of Agriculture and is programmed to be either sold or shut down within the next five years.

It is a shadow of its former self and like Superman in the presence of kryptonite has no strength or power to do anything like it once did. A hollow shell waiting for someone to put it out of its misery.

No wonder farmers won't support it fully, its merely a token left in the shambles of ever changing Agricultural Policy of our Conservative government.

[rhoff]

Farmer input is allowed-It's called tonnage. But it's
not mandated by law which is the CWB's biggest
problem. So be it.

[vvalk]

Wilagro. WOW! Drink the koolaid much?

[blackpowder]

some days willy, you just blow my hair back.

[wilagro]

blackpowder: And what part of what I posted do you disagree with?

I thought it pretty well described the reality of the situation.

[TOM4CWB]

Willy,
For the vast majority of the Cwb time
operating, it has been 'gov' directed.
Goodale instructed the Cwb to change to
tendering... And forced the monopoly on
us by Order in Council in 1996.
The Commissioners did a better job of
running the Cwb by far than Oberg and
Ritter did.

The buying of the Lakers were the
turning point for Minister Ritz et. El;

Had Oberg not been so power hungry my
bet would be that wheat would Not have
changed in 2012.

Willy I am Very greatful as are our
family... That 2012 was freedom year for
wheat.

The Cwb Single Desk was a socialist
experiment, that caused overbuilding of
the livestock industry.
Sadly the Pools didn't respect property
rights... And paid the price for this.
Oberg did exactly the same to the Cwb as
he did to the Awp.
As I Predicted SADLY.
Blaming Minister Ritz is a cop out.
You can't convince me that an elected
Cwb bod would make 1 iota of difference
now in the dual market.

The grain buyers that liked the Cwb the
best, got the biggest discounts before.

The single desk was built on the broken
dreams of so many family farms... False
hopes that never paid in cash, just
future iou's that were soon forgotten.

Cheers!

We will really appreciate remembrance
day this year.
The first year the 2wwar is over for our
farm since it started in 1939.

[malleefarmer]

guess its a bit of a myth farmers had
input here in australia in all honesty
we had the ability to remove and add
farmer directors at board elections but
basically nothing else.

it came apparent as well that there were
to many farmer directors and not enough
non farming indepadant directors to
scrutinize bussiness.

if your cwb had been privatized and
shares alloted to farmers and farmers
running the show would have this saved
your single desk?

[ColevilleH2S]

Mallee, that is an interesting concept. The farmers would have felt they had more skin in the game then. But the big fight would have been, on which basis would the shares be allotted. Per farm, tonne, acre, or permit book. Now that would have been a good fight to watch.

[Burbert]

Farmer run cwb, OUT OF THE QUESTION IN
COMEDIA. This fiasco is a gobermont
payoff ta the private sector, grain
companies! Ya ain't seen nothing yet,
once we's past this years short crop, the
sky will fall on Comedian framers, no
doubt!!!!!

[blackpowder]

Exactly. It was/is so polarized that it could never be agreed upon the number of farmers.
Wilagro. You are saying that it fails now only because of govt. management..
Are you saying the ag ministry is forcing it to pool only. Forcing it to have meaningless basis? Did they not have the resources to buy a tonne in July for Nov delivery?
What does the govt do? There are a number of brokers trading physical grain that had far less resources. Why do their programs still resemble the past gibberish??
AND when, ever, was the CWB; of the farmer, by the farmer, for the farmer??

[bucket]

burbert

The current price of cwrs #1 is 8.25 at my local elevator.

The sept 13 price that I priced friday was 8.13.

Not a bad price to start at. If it swings up I will price some more and if the price goes down, I can wait to see what happens.

The cwb now or before could not price into the new crop with a defined price to a contract at this time of the year.

[highwayman]

The reality of the situation is individuals like
burbot and willy aren't interested in
acknowledging any of the numerous lucrative
nearby or future pricing opportunities. They are
only content to bitch and moan and preach the
sky will fall in fear that their neighbor might
achieve something better than they have. It is
great to see wheat and durum finally performing
as the cash crops they should. For the first time in
my 32 years of farming I can use our wheat and
durum crops to meet our cash flow needs in the
same fashion we use the rest of the crops we
grow. If the CWB truly desires to succeed the first
order of business should be to remove the
arrogant ideology that still lingers their from the
single desk Gestapo. And if it should fail, who
gives a rats ass.

[tubs]

when have you guys heard about german labor strikes. there seem to be a better relation ship between owners and employees. here most people bitch about their work and if there is alittle slowdown companies lay people of right away.

[malleefarmer]

i doubt anyone in australia really wanted
awb to fail as they were offering cash
prices for grain long side pool for the
last 10 yrs of the single desk basically
they were leaders, then the single desk
was abolished they just continued on as
another buyer in the open market.

[blackpowder]

Realities that don't fit wilagro and burberts' world view don't exist.