perplexed

[malleefarmer]

As to why cwb cant intergrate in "new"
marketing world?
Have all there premium markets and there
preffered supplier status deserted them?

AWB made a smooth transition and i think
from memory had about 25% of the market
now would suggest its around 30% with
cargill ownership.

They just sort of got on with bussiness
or the would be no more cant see why cwb
cant have the same mindset.

and i read all the posts below but im at
loss and its in there best interests and
farmers to be competitive.

suggestions here are shave another 8
million tonnes of our harvest bit over
the top maybe 1 million my best guess

[katoe]

Dont make assumptions about the cwb based on what is posted on this site

[parsley]

Could it be that the Wheat Board diehards
deserted the CWB, and are chasing the ion
market bonus? Could it be that the same staff ad
the same leadership get the same salary for
doing the same thing, over and over? Pars

[bucket]

The cwb is carrying on the fine tradition of selling wheat at the lowest price.

Little hard to get the required tonnes with the same strategy, when even former directors take the better open market price.

[TOM4CWB]

Mallet,
My best guess would be, 1 - 2 million
tonnes.

Sadly the Cwb directors/ Oberg and his
crew; set this up to happen Exactly this
way.

Producer cars will likely work the best,
also the decrease in the basis at points
during the year... Will drive growers
towards other private marketers.

Goodwill with millers does not buy
grain... Especially IF the 20 percent of
growers that grow 80 percent of the
grain don't trust the Cwb. Without
people on the ground... And any rational
reason to sell to the Cwb... They will
be fortunate to get this much grain.
But I could be wrong.

What do others think?

Cheers

[LWeber]

I'm perplexed as to how anyone could go from an institution that had no regard for farmer's property rights ... end up at the Canadian Human Rights Museum.

Alanis Morissette:
And isn't it ironic... don't you think.

[bucket]

Unfortunately what has happened is that the end user support didn't come from supplying the best wheat, it came from being the lowest price.

Anyone want to talk about multi year supply deals with china.

Or what about the discount to Algeria, they had to muzzle the guy from algeria after that.

And then there is the premium Japanese market that hasn't materialized this year.

I wonder though, if the PRO suddenly increases after the sign up is over, who was not being transparent????

[ColevilleH2S]

Easy. From one giant, top heavy, white elephant of a socialist idol that few people wanted to sell through, to one giant, top heavy, white elephant of a socialist idol that few people will visit.

[LWeber]

LOL... Izzy's GOP White Elephant...

[TOM4CWB]

From Agriweek:

Last paragraph of "If you ask me" Morris Dorosh writes:

"The CWB was sent out to sink or swim by its own devices except for lavish government (public) backing that no one
else in the grain trade has. It is sinking. What was thought to be its big strength and guarantee of at least some unconditional business was a chimera. This is a surprise to everyone, and not just to its top brass. The CWB can be just let alone until it gets to the bottom, which seems the government’s most likely choice. If there is to be a long shot at saving it, the first necessity is to replace the management, from the classification of senior clerk on up. In barely three months the old management has proven what many people suspected. An outfit that can’t function in a competitive
environment should never have been trusted with a monopoly."

I personally think the Government should sell the CWB (C/W Rail Cars) to another grain Handler with some assurances that the producer car network will continue to function. This would be a valuable asset to someone.

Cheers!

[bucket]

And there in lies the problem, the arrogant people that work their.

Ward, Gord and their peons should have been turfed years ago.

Flaten used to take family vacations for a year and show off pictures at producer meetings.

Gust, remember the one in Davidson a few years back.

[Burbert]

Gobermonts lie to the people, each and
every time. The Comedian gobermont
seized the farmer run marketing bored
from framers, hence framers will no
longer deal with it. It was all planned
to fail, and it is failing. Heil
Harper, f&*kk Gag Minister Ritz!!!!!!!!
Scum of the earth, ya see in Comedia a
Gag Minister has to first of all be a
failed framer, who hates other framers
to qualify to be Gag Minister......

[blackpowder]

perhaps what's happening to the cwb is what happens when you try to freeze time. Or stop tectonic shift. Forces great enough to oppose each other for a long enuf time schism violently.
It's support was based in ideology only. Support for what was an anachronism.
Had the political experiment been allowed to change in step with the industry, there would have been a natural evolution and maybe something viable in business today.
Instead you have a block of ice that can't exist in present form. A marriage by law only, for 35 years.
Proof that there is no standing still, only movement. Either forward or back.
Like the Southern 'Lost Cause' writers, we have Burbert clinging to his white sheet and pointed hat. Sadly, he's incapable of anything close to that intelligent or understandable. His usefullness as a kapo is over.

[Choice2U]

The CWB played a dangerous game when they had complete control. They held grain handlers at ransom depending on the issue until they fell in line, they pitted grain handlers against rail companies, they pitted grain handler against grain handler, hated producer cars and then loved them when it suited their purpose, they forced farmers to sell their grain to them even as the tide shifted from frustration to disgust. The system was built on "fall in line or else" rather than the concept of win-win. Companies and farmers that got their eyes poked don't forget so I guess the chickens are coming home to roost.

[malleefarmer]

guess massive difference was awb is and
was at the time a private company
farmers were along with others
shareholders so they we duty bound to
continue on.
cwb has no such obligation corporately
or morally.

seems they will just die a slow death
when they need no to, if they think
outside the square they could become
some sort of a massive brokerage firm or
clearing house for grain for want of a
better term.

many farmers here said at the time they
would never deal with awb blah blah blah
funny days when awb are top price he
loud mouthed buffons are willing sellers
to them.