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    CWB 'Grain Waves'

    Grain Waves: Most Prairie grain still uncommitted as pool deadline looms, says CWB

    Undecided farmers are still holding back large volumes of the Prairie harvest, according to CWB - which will close its Harvest Pool this Friday (November 9). And that could cause problems for producers who try to deliver their grain later on.

    Listen to Gord Flaten, vice president of grain procurement, talk about how farmers could face delivery congestion next spring if they don't take advantage of earlier delivery opportunities.


    "I think if you talk to most people in the industry, there's probably still about 65 to 80 per cent of the crop out there that hasn't been committed yet by farmers to either a pool contract or a cash contract, so there are a lot of decisions still to be made by farmers."
    Listen... 17 sec.

    "If farmers wait until spring, there may be situations where they may not see delivery opportunity then, or they may see the basis on cash contracts become quite expensive, and so I would encourage farmers who are looking for delivery opportunity to consider at least putting some of their grain in a pool where we can start shipping that now."
    Listen... 24 sec.

    If large amounts of grain try to enter the system at once, Flaten says that could worsen delays in train movement and port loading that typically occur over the winter.

    "Congestion in the logistics system can be caused by the amount of grain that's trying to force its way in, and also by weather issues that can happen at any time of the year, so if you want to be sure that you're going to get your grain moved during the crop year, it's a good idea to start moving it early and signing up for contracts that give you an opportunity to move it early."
    Listen... 24 sec.


    Flaten says CWB has now sourced enough grain to run an effective pool. But there's still room for more.


    "We've had solid sign-up to date in the Harvest Pool and definitely enough to run an effective pool, and I think farmers who are in the pool already are going to see some good results. We do have room for additional tonnes, we'd like to see farmers sign up more tonnes and we know there's a lot of uncommitted grain out there where farmers have not decided yet whether to sign it up to a pool or a cash contract with a company, so we'd definitely like them to consider the pooling option with CWB."
    Listen... 27 sec.

    CWB announced an extension to its Harvest Pool deadline last week, giving producers until November 9 to sign up. Flaten says the response from farmers has been steady this week. He is expecting a lot of activity in the lead-up to Friday's final pool deadline.

    #2
    They really dont believe that growers are able to market product for their own account. I suspect the pool is pretty shallow. Dont think i would be diving into a shallow pool anytime soon!!

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      #3
      Dont get all defensive now, they are simply
      trying to save us from ourselves. After all, who
      knows your farm business better than people in
      an office 900km away? Selling your production
      is complicated and better left to to.....someone
      else...less thinking, less phoning, less personal
      accountability and responsibility. Just dump er
      through the grates and go for coffee to tell
      others how you got screwed. (sarcasm of
      course).

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        #4
        Same old wheat board mentality, orderly marketing you know!!!!!!!!! Sell it off at the lowest price possible, it is too much trouble to try for the best price. I don't have to pay some educated idiot to give my grain away. I am quite capable of that all on my own in I so wish. GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!

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          #5
          tommy 4x4- if you think this Ritz Cracker version of the wheat board-IS the SAME as the CWB.
          Then you should buy some ocean front property in southern Albertie

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            #6
            I was a CWB supporter and I wouldn't touch this Abortion of Ritz's with a ten foot pole.

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              #7
              mustardman

              For christ's sakes man, the same ****ing people are running the day to day operations.

              Letting Gord Flaten run anything is like letting the monkeys run the zoo.

              There hasn't been a new idea at portage and main other than how prairie farmers should take care of the cwb's employees kids with in house daycare. Far from having anything to do with marketing grain.

              If the cwb would come out with some innovative programs, I would support them but they don't, its the same old worn out ideas.

              They can't even finish out last years pool without an extension. How does that gain support going forward?

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                #8
                Besides mustardman, why don't you just admit you are taking the better price on the open market rather than dealing with the CWB.

                Your excuse, because ritz is running it, is a copout. You supported the cwb when they had government appointed commissioners.

                Face it, you have finally realized the cwb has been lying to you for your entire farming career. You did some math and realized they had stolen a large sum of money from your farm. And the years you have spent embarrassing yourself supporting them

                Like an alcoholic, the first step to recovery is admitting it!

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                  #9
                  The current cwb is GOBERMONT run, not
                  framer run THATS A HUGE F'N DIFFERENCE.
                  RITZ and herr HARPER r ***** you dealing
                  with. Its ment to fail and is
                  failing.....

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                    #10
                    bucket you obviously aren't a durum grower or if you are you have a short memory.
                    4 or 5 years ago we received $12.37 in our pocket on very Similar durum stocks.What are you going to get this year- oh right the same as our american neighbours did that year- $8-$9

                    And don't whine that we had to 'wait 18 months' for it. There were always cwb payments coming from one crop year or the next so thats a mute point

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                      #11
                      Its failing because the ****heads like gord flaten haven't got a ****ing muscle in their brain to come up with a marketing strategy.

                      Here is one just to start.

                      Take the Japanese premium market and pool that to interested sellers of grain. Put in a high quality grain requirement and keep their premium market and the quality producers. Could be like the warburton contract as an example only better. The cwb knows how much the Japanese market requires and could offer a special pool with better prices to maintain quality.

                      Here is another. Use the rail cars to negotiate a better basis so that you can compete with the local prices.

                      And surely there is a premium to not having to use rail cars and sell mill direct with premium price. The prairie mills are never going to use rail cars if they can have it trucked in from a 100 mile radius. That alone gives the cwb a $35 per tonne spread they can play with.


                      Oh wait, maybe all this is already happening at places like P&H, since they have their own mills and can offer better prices since they can do the logistics themselves without the previous middleman (cwb) ****ing it up with a call system.

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                        #12
                        What crop year was that mustardman?

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                          #13
                          Nope mustardman, wrong again. I grow durum. And I remember that big price year. The cwb didn't accept 100 percent that year either. They forced farmers to sell into lower priced crop years.

                          You must work for the cwb, because they couldn't understand the math back then either.

                          I will try again. If the cwb only accepts 40 percent of the durum at 12 bucks and sends 60 percent into the next crop year and you only recieve 8 the next year at an 80 percent acceptance and then finally takes 100 percent at 7 bucks. What is the final return on the durum you physically grew in the 12 dollar year? Lets leave the storage costs out to make it easier to figure out. You can play with the percentages but I think you might get the jest of it. Maybe.

                          I can guarantee you, you did not recieve 12.37 a bushel for the durum you grew that year.

                          All I can say is, **** are you stupid, along with every peeon I talked to at the cwb that couldn't understand the law of diminishing returns.

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                            #14
                            bucket: ever think of a name change, maybe ****et.

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                              #15
                              I must apologize for my rudeness and swearing. No need for that. My apologies mustardman.

                              It just makes my blood boil when I think back to holding durum because a contract/call system. When I finally delivered my durum it was over 20 bucks a bushel and I couldn't haul what I was forced to store to a market that was obviously begging for it at those high prices.

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