marketing???

[stubblejumper]

It may take some longer to figure it out

[Burbert]

Going Backwards 2 is apparently viewed by
some framers as a positive step forwards.
Then again their are some framers who
simply wood like to be kicked in the balls
ever once in a while, and call it a
reality check, positive butt hurts like
hell. Heil Harper!

[farmaholic]

Stubble: with all due respect, regarding marketing, on my farm I still make the decision, not the market analyst.

[parsley]

When the CWB recieved the marketing report
stats they had contracted, the results proved
exactly opposite of what the CWB hoped to find.
In fact, the report exposed the CWB as marketing
liars. So the CWB buried it. I have the report. It
was sent to me, in confidence, to let farmers
know we were on the right track. I promised
confidentiality, and have stood by it. Farmers paid
for a report they never saw.

Weber sends reports we read, discuss, and if we
don't like tehm, we can choose to unsubscribe.
Nor is he protected by legislation that forces
farmers to subscribe, or pay him to speak.

As an organic farmer, Weber's newsletter is more
valuable, even though it pertains to the
conventional market, than the CWB ever was.
They stole, lied, cheated, deceives, manipulated
and worse, played one farmer against the other.
At least Weber encourages farmers. By providing
information so they can choose.

Choice trumps force. Stubble.You have yet to
learn the lesson. Pars

[bucket]

farmaholic

Actually you could only make your own marketing decisions in wheat durum and barley for the last few months.

Up until then you were equal to stubble and burbert, which is just the way they liked it!

[charliep]

hlg

To your question, wheat is 13 % protein and 87 %
politics. Always has been. Would be nice to have
more discussion of marketing strategies but that
seems to be very intimate to every ones
operation/farm business (just like our sex lives) that
no one to divulge. Agriville has always been a
community where people talk about what on their
minds. Posters decide what is important to be
discussed and the tone of the conversation.

[farmaholic]

Bucket: You are right, but it could have been my choice not to grow CWB grains.

[TOM4CWB]

Charlie,

This ends up to be personal decisions... especially now.

Some folks liked to have the CWB in charge of half of my families farm... then they could figure out ways to extract income from my family.

Now this 'tool' is gone... and personal responsiblity is key... how we react and our state of mind... will give good indicators of our marketing performance.

1. Risk Management; as we are in a 'Volitile' period in history... with a balance of supply and demand... along with low carry over supply... if we sell at the 95-97 percent of historic prices offered...likely it will be good for our farms.

2. Speculation is good... but pigs do get slaughtered. Greed and calling everyone a liar and thief... is unlikely to add value to our discussion and the needed wisdom to decide when to sell and to whom. Reflections of past decisions and life experiences...

like WW1-2 history and politics... all add layers of depth/influence to our decisions.

3. Perceptions of the future... and discernment of risk and reward... are key to healthy marketing. How each person and organisation weight this portion of the decision is VERY different. Which I believe Agriville does a great job of discussion and grinding through perspectives that help make a complete picture.

Thanks for all your help Charlie! I enjoy the Information Larry Weber gathers and provides. For a stark left wing view... Burbert/Wilagro/Stubble are never far from providing that side!

Have a great day... and drive safe!

Cheers!

[SASKFARMER3]

stubble your a total idiot, arent you? I
pay for different survices, Take the info
and make up my mind.
Now in the CWB days they sent out mounds
of Bull shit over and over and over. Then
they would tell us the final will be so
much then a year and a half late we got a
check for below the true market value. So
you and the 7 guys who still use the CWB
keep supporting them.

[bucket]

farmaholic

To an extension of what you just said, if you decided to grow non board grains because board grain were not cutting it, WHO really made that decision for you?

Just asking, not trying to be ignorant.

The one study that has never been done by any expert in the field - charliep, andy schmitz et all, was how much did the cwb cost us because we could not use wheat, durum or malt barley as cash crops in the fall and what did a farmer sell just to have cash? And its price impacts on canola, peas, lentils etc. over time.

[farmaholic]

Bucket: I was just being a bit argumentative. I hear your argument and yes I always grew CWB grains, they were a necessary evil between the specialty/broadleaf crops.

[TOM4CWB]

Bucket,

The George Morris Centre has scads of CWB studies on Feed Grain prices in Western Canada and downward influences it caused.

"The significant problems we face,” Albert Einstein said, “cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."

The world has a different social structure than 10-20 years ago. Tec and communications have changed everything.

[bucket]

Agreed Tom, and the CWB is still hiding behind an iron curtain, so to speak.

[bucket]

farmaholic

Then you would be a great guy to ask, how much non board grain did you sell at the price of the day to have cash and what impact did that have on the price of your non board crop?

Better yet, if you had the market environment then, like today, how much better off would your farm be?

[checking]

The last time I took a cash advance, decades ago, it ended with the bin police deciding they couldn't wait to see what the final board calls would be.

So, for someone in the know, now that we don't have to wait for cash, what's the uptake on cash advances post-board to pre-board?