marketing???

[bucket]

farmaholic

To an extension of what you just said, if you decided to grow non board grains because board grain were not cutting it, WHO really made that decision for you?

Just asking, not trying to be ignorant.

The one study that has never been done by any expert in the field - charliep, andy schmitz et all, was how much did the cwb cost us because we could not use wheat, durum or malt barley as cash crops in the fall and what did a farmer sell just to have cash? And its price impacts on canola, peas, lentils etc. over time.

[farmaholic]

Bucket: I was just being a bit argumentative. I hear your argument and yes I always grew CWB grains, they were a necessary evil between the specialty/broadleaf crops.

[TOM4CWB]

Bucket,

The George Morris Centre has scads of CWB studies on Feed Grain prices in Western Canada and downward influences it caused.

"The significant problems we face,” Albert Einstein said, “cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."

The world has a different social structure than 10-20 years ago. Tec and communications have changed everything.

[bucket]

Agreed Tom, and the CWB is still hiding behind an iron curtain, so to speak.

[bucket]

farmaholic

Then you would be a great guy to ask, how much non board grain did you sell at the price of the day to have cash and what impact did that have on the price of your non board crop?

Better yet, if you had the market environment then, like today, how much better off would your farm be?

[checking]

The last time I took a cash advance, decades ago, it ended with the bin police deciding they couldn't wait to see what the final board calls would be.

So, for someone in the know, now that we don't have to wait for cash, what's the uptake on cash advances post-board to pre-board?

[bucket]

Farmers might sign a contract for march thru june delivery on wheat and then go borrow the interest free advance money.

Before it was trying to have cash flow without any guarantee from the board about delivery, price or acceptance.

[farmaholic]

Bucket: Without sounding arrogant or
smug, we were operating from a fairly
strong financial position. We were able
to keep the bills paid with the trickle
of CWB cheques and "short term" lines of
credit until the deferrals came in(quit
that horse shit with incorporation).
How much better off could have the farm
been if this new environment existed for
a decade or more is a hypothetical
question I can't answer.

Haven't sold any wheat, durum or barley
yet either.

[hobbyfrmr]

Great discussion about choice.
Like Parsley, I am an organic farmer and I
choose to subscribe to weber commodities even
though it does not directly impact my farm.
Weber has figured out a way to get market
information to farmer clients that they find
valuable. End of story.

Thinking of choice, Stubblejumper, I suggest you
choose your words wisely. I find your statement
vs. weber commodities shocking. I'm am one of
those not to smart farmers, but wow that is a very
bold statement. Agriville is a forum with farmers
from western Canada, eastern Canada, Australia,
and the U.K.. I hope you can back your statement
vs. Weber Commodities with facts. Presently, just
a dumb farmer reading this thread, here is how I
regard what you have written.

In common law jurisdictions, slander refers to a
malicious, false,[2][not specific enough to verify]
and defamatory spoken statement or report, while
libel refers to any other form of communication
such as written words or images.[3] Most
jurisdictions allow legal actions, civil and/or
criminal, to deter various kinds of defamation and
retaliate against groundless criticism.

Choose your words carefully.

[stubblejumper]

I will quote webber "**** you and the horse you rode in on"

[sumdumguy]

Marleters have really helped Saskatchewan grow.
i have lived life in the free market. Special crops
saved farmers from going under while they tried
to out live the wheat board.

Marketers carry on, and hold your heads high.
You have worked hard to stay abreast of world
demand and transfer that wealth to us. Let these
buffoons find their own markets.

They can say what they like, but never has the
farmer had more power and the giztapo does not
like it!

[wd9]

Like transgenic and the terms around it,
marketing is the same way.

Market as noun, market as verb, market
as entities and businesses, markets as
collections of the above, super market,
farmers market. It can get quite
confusing to discuss if we don't know
what the actual topic is.

I think a lot of farmers see traders as
adding cost to a commodity, ie taking a
profit from the food chain yet adding
nothing to the product. Yet, it would
seem, it is the cost of price discovery
for that commodity.

So the topic is.... "marketing?" What
exactly is the original post about
anyways?