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    #21
    rhoff . . . you are right. But the fact that politicians and the electorite won't face-the-music may cost a generation ahead. And it was our generation of greed that is going to create grief for our kids and their families.

    My feeling is that printing money (QE) ultimately won't work anyway . . . it is just kicking the can. And this horrid financai mess just get mesier costing a much longer-than-expected recession/depression in the years ahead.

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      #22
      This is a boring mess. I think inflation will be
      moderate. You say, how do you figure that.
      Money is being printed but as the price of oil has
      climbed for $36 dollar a barrell to $100 the
      money had poured out of the US economy. So
      the increased M1 has not increased disposable
      income. The inflationary spiral of price-wage
      increases can't happen because America has
      shipped its jobs offshore and there is high
      unemployment. So the leakage of money and
      jobs will moderate the inflationary effect of
      increased money supply. America has to figure
      out how to bring back the jobs or make work.
      Then we will see inflation.

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        #23
        I think inflation is in our face in Canada right now, has been for a while.
        We will stay inflationary until interest rates move up, and that may be a while.

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          #24
          I hope everybody knows that what you think will
          happen and what decisions you make will profoundly
          change the amount of wealth you have in the future.

          And the currency war was fought and won
          already,gold came out on top.fyi

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            #25
            Personally, don't see much inflation in
            North America at all right now. That is
            why precious metals have performed poorly.

            Feel we are now in the midst of a broad-
            based commodity market meltdown.

            Good news is; loonie may continue its
            decline as a result.

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              #26
              Errol;

              Broadbased Commodity Meltdown?

              A 15 percent change is easily normal volitility. 50 percent would be unexpected... is that your projection?

              There would be large shortages if even 25 percent drop in grain prices were sustained. WHY so negative? Will they run out of ink/screen space to print money?

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                #27
                Are we talking core inflation er inflation
                inflation, like all the sh_t we buy that
                is going up, up, way up in price? Butt
                things like computin machines and tvs is
                dropping soooos don't worry be happy......

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                  #28
                  errol

                  You said "And it was our generation of greed that is going to create grief for our kids and their families. "

                  I hope you are not blaming this on the generation that is 48 right now.

                  I blame my parent's generation who elected trudeau and chretien that put this country deep in debt. They started the socialist state in Canada. And effectively shut down the west for 20 years.

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                    #29
                    bucket: We have a FEW social programs but we do not have a SOCIALIST state.

                    Thank GAWD for the pensions and the medicare. Go to Mexico and see the old women eighty years old begging on the streets...you see mothers with snotty nosed kids living on the street every day with the kids selling Chiclets trying to survive.

                    Go on their tours to the fancy resorts where rooms are rented to the rich for 4 or 5 thousand a night and contrast that with the poor sections of ANY Mexican city.

                    Our social programs are necessary and if you begrudge the few we have then you are callous and not humane.

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                      #30
                      Wilagro,that wealth gap is there because the value of
                      labour is stolen through inflation and paper
                      money,those 80 year old women couldn't
                      preserve/save the labour they did 60 years ago.

                      In a nutshell.

                      It would take a very long boring essay to explain it.

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