Distorting Havest Data #2

[wd9]

Errol, "The power of substitution is
alive 'n well."

Just as long as you have something to
substitute it with. Its hard to print a
food label with "low in saturated fat"
substituting canola with 35% sat palm
oil in the food product. McDonalds
doesn't want their fries to change
taste, salad dressings can't be heated
so they can come out of the bottle, on
and on.

[LEP]

I believe outside of a hefty investment in fertilizer,
nothing makes as big a ROI as good bin storage.

Having the ability not to have to sell at harvest on
account of bin space pays big time.

But I do agree with Errol to a point, there is added risk
in storing grain and that has to be managed like all the
other risks in farming.

Last year was the first year I ever lost any grain to bugs
or heating in 23 years. A bin in a landlord's yard had
the lid blow open through a couple snow storms, he
closed it later and never mentioned it to me. In july
when I went to haul it there were problems. However I
was able to treat the bin with phostoxin and only had
1,000 bu downgraded to feed.

[bucket]

That's right, the government doesn't manipulate reports.

For instance, how does statscan find 300,000 tonnes of canola in August of the following year. Farmers report production by mid November, acres are calculated, as is yield. Farmers have hauled enough for the industry to have a good handle on production as well.

Nope, no market manipulation there.

[boarderbloke]

The purpose of this thread was not about marketing per se, but rather about, what appears to be, a clear statement from Director General Jose Graziano da Silva, that the gov'ts of the G20, mostly democratic countries, took stealth actions to suppress or smooth out grain markets. Were the numbers on seeded acres, or mix of acres or yield of those acres manipulated, by gov't stats? what about storage or carry over numbers?
I'm with Rook, what actions were taken by this group of countries? democratic countries mind you. This is expected from the likes of China, North Korea, Russia et al, they have no quams in hurting their own farmers, but for democratic nations to conspire to manipulate the markets, to the detriment of it's own farmers is disturbing at the very least.
What has taken place, what are these "new" policies???
As a member of the G20, is our government part of this?

[fjlip]

Not impossible. Lots at stake and we need to be part of the GAME or else.

[hedgehog]

europe will be returning to intervention buying and storage soon, with new production incentives.
europeans dont like being hungry, it leads to riots.

[ColevilleH2S]

From what I've on the news this week, I've come to
the conclusion that southern Europeans will riot for
something to do in the afternoon ;-)

[hedgehog]

Southern europe is in a mess thanks to govt mismanagement of the economy, with 25% unemployment, anything could happen.