Who wins and who looses with these land deals!

[SASKFARMER3]

Well the seller in most cases wins lotto 649! Most
weren't farmers or weren't very good at it and
finally get a pay day.
Real estate for taking 5 % for doing jack shit and
in some cases not protecting the farmer who is
their client but protecting the buyer!
Now the losers!
Community if its a land company they do nothing
for the local community!
Renters are over paying to work some one else's
land! Working for less to say their a big farmer!
Finally young starting farmers who are getting in
deep. $300,000 plus a quarter your in deep.
Maybe history should be taught in the schools
because most have been here before and
unfortunately we will be here again!

[oneoff]

Who wins and who looses with these land deals!
SASKFARMER3 posted Nov 20, 2012 8:21
.....Maybe history should be taught in the schools
because most have been here before and
unfortunately we will be here again!

C'mon sasfrmr

You're hoping that history repeats itself soon; but its kind of evident that you don't mean that you will consider it to be an unfortunate reoccurrence.

Be consistant; at least most of the time.

[SASKFARMER3]

Hey I have no problem when every one is going
one way I slowly go the other then when they turn
I head a full speed their way!
History show you lots yet its not taught. Tell some
one that their family wanted us to farm their land
and work for us a few years back are now
competitors. Real estate agents in the early 80 s
who were bending over backwards to get people
to buy, drought, and oh yea the world is short of
food you'll all be rich!
So yes either way I should win! Sell or wait! That's
farming in Canada.

[Hopperbin]

You really should keep mentioning China in all this somehow, the last thing we need is another language we cannot speak.

[SASKFARMER3]

All i want to do is point out to farmers
thinking about selling that their are
foreign farmers from South africa,
europe etc that want to buy in canada
and come farm here. Getting ones green
card by buying land is wrong IMHO!
I find nothing wrong with people who
want to move to canada to be a canadian.
We all came from some where else but
when a foreign government is buying
thats a problem!

[grrrr]

Speaking of history repeating itself, did anyone watch "The Dust Bowl" on PBS the last two nights? We are all fools if we think that will not happen again. Maybe not to the extent that it did in the 1930's, but economic meltdown and poor crops? Seems loike only a matter of time.

[SASKFARMER3]

Grr that was a great program. The one guy
talked about a school where their were 100
people in a area and 25 went to school a
few years into the drought and hardship
and it was 25 and 3 in school.
But it did end and those who stayed and
survived did well.
History boys History.

[dave4441]

What foreign government is buying land? You just make up what you don't know.

[ajl]

The foreign government in question would
be the communist party of China just in
case that wasn't obvious enough. They
are buying up land all over the world
notably in Australia. In Canada they
have to use 'operatives' which are
wealthy immigrants with dual
citizenship. You do not have wealthy
immigrants from China without the
blessing of the Communist party. As for
who losses in this process: younger
Canadian farmers that need to buy land
and rural sask as in 20 yrs the land
will be organized into 100000 acres
units farmed by foreign nationals. Just
in case any of this is not obvious.

[Burbert]

Who care who buys the land, long as the
cheque don't bounce and the deal doesn't
fall through. Comedia is open fer
business, some win some lose, who gives a
rats ass, this is capitalism at its best,
being bought out by commies....

[dave4441]

Looks like you have a firm understanding of the Chinese economy ajl. Not sure if you beleive it is communist Russia or what but you might want to understand a little about the country before making comments like that. Government operatives! lol

[itisfarmer]

Over 70 percent fo Chinese rich men are thinking of immigrating to other countries. Why? because they do NOT trust the government! Without surprise, the party does NOT trust its people neither. Anyone with a little bit historical knowledge of communist know this. NOBODY trust communist party!

To partner with someone that you dont' have any faith and do illegal business in another country just sounds crazy instead of 'Obvious' IMHO.

If you tend to believe these land purchasements are backed up by the Chinese government, I challenge you to prove it. Cause I think that SK farmland Security Board is doing its job pretty well.

[Hopperbin]

How do we know ajl is not far off, the Chinese have sent workers to north america to gain knowledge to bring back to China. Anyone remember the first Buick made in china was actually duplicated in another Chinese facility and put out about the same date that the GM factory could do it. Gm is still doing good in China and we need these laws to go both ways. We do have investments in China also. As to go forward from this day is listen to this which is quite a different story from the elders that thought they were actually smarter than the chinese and taught them how to do things at the expense of the rest of us. The world will be much different in 10 years. Being Chinese owned I don't think should be in anyones best interest. If China wants sand etc from Australia then should dam well pay an Australian company to to sell to them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOwZwkhFemQ&NR=1&feature=endscreen

[Hopperbin]

My ex noticed at the Farm Progress Show in Regina when we went that these guys are Chinese Nationals working for the Gov't. I would not have even noticed them if she did not mention it. Men hired by the Chinese gov't to bring back knowledge, ideas, etc for to manufacture things these guys are so low key no one notice them. She could understand what they were saying, and we have no idea what were up against. Many forces at work. Money influence. One thing for sure is that China still has things called state secrets that is not for sale to any other country. Does Exen have any secrets?

[oneoff]

At the Farm Progress Show I noticed small hordes of eager listeners (putting forth the questions) at the Department of Agriculture booths. Don't know what those "non Canadians" were saying but our guests seemed too be getting more answers than "we" were giving them questions in return at that particular point in time.