Is SkPulseCrDevBd IN a 'Conflict of Interest'???

[oneoff]

"Not the case in another
topic (is an election) so farmers in those areas have
choices/are able to vote. "

First every voter needs to know what is going on in order to cast an informed vote.. Voting without knowledge of the issues,candidate, platforms etc. is a complete sham.


Maybe you are really missing the point. Tell me how you interpret Codes od Conduct and Codes of Ethics.

That is if they exist; and if it is even pertinent to whatever election you are referring to.

You handle Conflicts of interest, and nepotism and cronyism etc. by distancing yourself from those conflicts; or by excusing yourself by immediately getting to an exterior wall and letting the rest of the quorum think for themselves; When those steps don't happen, and it often doesn't; it is not just the ones responsible with knowing their personal conflicts and what could be perceived as such, who have violated rules; it is everyone who was associated with the process that has compromised their leadership position and their organization's reputation.

[parsley]

"If anyone doesn't like the direction of a farm  
organization, run for a director or support
someone  who is willing to perform this role."

You sound like the Wheat Board, charliep. I recall
the CWB working behind the scenes, working
against any change, and using farmers' $$ to
maintain power. As do the Pulsers. I'm sure you
won't recall the CWB working with the Prairie
Pools to stymie questions at farmer meetings,
stymied dissent, schemed to get the right ppl in
the lines asking questions. Dirty tricks by
shitfaced bastards living off farmer money.

Tactics work. Especially when they are paid for
with farmers' $$M's

The underlying point is this: Farmers seem
unhappy with pulse deductions and pulse final
results. Farmers are exceptionally patient folks.
They grow the crops. They pay the bills.

Message: Farmers dont have to shut up. Farmers
dont have to move to the USA, either. Or grow
'other crops'. Farmers dont have comply like
good children. And farmers dont have to put up
with shitfaced bastards.

Read the message twice, even if it is tiresome.
Parsley

[parsley]

Bert should resign.

[charliep]

Don't know how to respond other than I
enjoy working with the commissions in
Alberta and see value for farmers who
choose to invest but by leaving their
levies in. I will observe with interest
the discussion as farmers in SK and MB
discuss their version of wheat and
Barley groups. This is coming very
quickly.

[oneoff]

Charlie....
The important things ares that you are aware of what you are working with and are confident about the processes used; the general accepted accounting procedures followed; the integrity of the persons and the roles and responsibilities of the persons entrusted to fulfill the public trust for which they have been appointed, acclaimed or elected.

Whether you personally enjoy working with them should be amongst a person's last concerns.

[parsley]

As long as any deduction group has a refundable
checkoff, I'm fine with it. Refundability is how
farmers yank the chain of irresponsibility.

Have Saskatchewan pulse grower deductions
become refundable? Parsley

[mbratrud]

Does anyonne know.... If a motion was made from the floor at the Annual meeting to make the check off voluntary and there were enough in favour of doing so could it be made voluntary? If so I would suggest a huge turnout at the annual meeting to put this thing to bed....

[parsley]

*Have any of of the current directors made some
-such Board motion, "I move we adopt a process
to make checkoffs voluntary" ?

*Have the present or any past BofD presented a
voluntary checkoff resolution at any annual
meeting?

In this day and age, every organization should
encourage every known mechanism that allows
and encourages farmers to have options. Pars
#EndDarkAgeAgriculturalTactics

If you are in the Board, feel free to reply. Parsley

[haveapulse]

I ran for the SPG board 3 years ago because of my concern for the process of awarding niche market tenders of peas and lentils.

Prior to letting my name stand I called numerous founding directors to assess their endorsement of this process. I also called all the individual board members at the time to express my concerns. I then let my name stand and was elected.

Thanks to all of you who supported me.

Tom, I believe the variety release program is the most important function SASK PULSE CROP DEVELOPMENT BOARD does for farmers and the industry and agree its scope and responsbility for performance is beyond Saskatchewans borders. As such, I support the CDC is the pillar of SPGs program, however I do believe our program needs to insure we provide a platform for other plant breeders to access our levy dollars to insure their porgrams are viable as well, namesly AG CANADAs program and private plant breeders.

I make no comment on Berts involvement.


I go on record as being a strong supporter of the mandatory levy, this support is based upon my respect of a board that has the confidence of the producers they represent to insure levy dollars are managed in the best interest of producers.

I welcome and concerns of producers at our annual meeting in this regard, and believe we should rigorously debate a number of issues as we go forward to insure pulses remain a first choice among producers rotational choice.

[haveapulse]

I do point out that at the annual meeting in 2012, no concerns were expressed, despite what seemed to be a strong undercurrent of concern resonating about a number of issues.

Just sayin...what is that old adage about the money and the mouth!

[parsley]

Voluntary checkiffs bring goodwill, which is un-
buyable. Legislated checkoffs bring cowrcion and
penalty. Legislated checkoffs do not allow
farmers to express withdrawal of support, even
though they may wish to. Legislated checkoffs
invite lavish expenditures with no accountability.
"You don't like it? Come to the meeting"

People who support compulsory legislated
checkoffs will have sympathy for:

"Women in Saudi Arabia are now monitored by
the government using an electronic system that
tracks any cross-border movements, alerting their
male guardians by text if they attempt to leave
the country."

Keeping others in line is age old. Only those with
the inability to grow to trust in progress, wtll
support compulsion. They cannot let go of the old
ways. Pars

[haveapulse]

The resolution can also come from the floor at our
annual meeting.

[parsley]

Thanks for the tip. Square One is always an
option.

Too many times, farmers vote for candidates they
believe will act in their interests; candidates who
will bring leadership, not followship; candidates
who believe in free markets and choice.

But the Rod's of the world always crawl out of
their wormholes long enough to vote for
suppression, bondage and the herd.

Socialist representation.

I took a walk down memory lane:

Because education taxes were so smoothly
downloaded on municipalities, remember?, they
reached 80-90% paid for by landowners. Finally
farmers got mad. The teachers had
representation at the salary negotiating table, as
did the government, but the farmers paying most
of the bill had none.

Socialist thinkers at that time also reminded
farmers to go to a meeting if they werent happy.
Square One.

I recall the process b/c I took minutes at a
meeting.

When you have to deal with socialists, you
always end up at Square One. Parsley

[TOM4CWB]

Parsley,

This is a tough go.

We all hope decent folks will practice 'do unto others as you would have done to ourselves'... on the belief of that trust... it is much easier to let someone else speak up... and less embarassing to be known as a 'trouble maker'...

Those who are taking advantege of the common folk... will use condecending language... that avoids the real problems of abuse of the process that is supposed to respect individual property rights.

As a collective... WE own these special varieties. Unless we make it clear... the 'powerfull' will barge ahead without a look back...

A look at those of whom were trampled (common folk who paid the vast majority of taxes and levies) ....in the wake of so called 'progress' as they would judge their past performance to be.

Open source computer programming is a great example of tec that does advance innovation. I don't see why splitting risk... and sharing the technology/genetics with all interested levy providers... in a orderly manner... can't work. WITHOUT prejudice. Draw lots if needed... and distribute smaller lots of foundation breeder seed.

[parsley]

Too many folks, Tom, think they are far more
capable than the guy down the road, so they
want to choose for the guy down the road.

If we have learned anything about life, anything
at all, it is that people need to make their own
choices.

Making a choice is the best lesson life has to
offer. It also provides us with hope. And
independence. Choice enriches everyone around
you. Mature thinking develops from having to
acknowledge the choice you make.

It is why I try to pound it home. Pars