Part Deux

[oneoff]

Confidence in a system is priceless....ergo valuable.

The role of government can just be to ensure that certain rights and some stability is maintained. One sensible solution would be continue to use the CGC as the agency that administers a comprehensive insurance program (probably not under written by public funds or government backing") to provide stability and confidence in agricultural industry transactions that may very well involve worldwide transactions.

Readers should also take into account that groups such as seed growers may very well have a lot more nearby customers than some generic producer of lower cost and quality commodities that have have different classes of buyers. One may very well have to deal with a whole industry sector such as hog producers who are bleeding red ink through a lot of cuts over which they have very little control.

And if the remedy seems to be to shut down something like pork production there are probably more problems created solved. That is where our leaders and governments might have some role; to at least attempt to salvage some things where the market place has demonstrated it whole hearted failure.

In this feed grain payment problem; there isn't widespread use of viable options. And maybe there is no current accepable viable option for all buyer or seller circumstances.

The main problem keeps coming back to the buyer's reluctance to put money on the table at the time he gets possession of the farmer's goods.

The main problem keeps coming back to the buyer's reluctance to put money on the table at the time he gets possession of the farmer's goods

The main problem keeps coming back to the buyer's reluctance to put money on the table at the time he gets possession of the farmer's goods

The main problem keeps coming back to the buyer's reluctance to put money on the table at the time he gets possession of the farmer's goods


If you get what I am trying to convey.

[charliep]

<a href="http://www.agr.gc.ca/cb/index_e.php?s1=n&s2=2012&page=n121018">New Canada Grains Act</a>

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These changes to the Act will streamline the operations of the CGC and eliminate redundant or unnecessary services, such as inward inspection, that are no longer required in a modern grain industry. These amendments will improve the CGC's producer payment protection program by creating the opportunity to move to a new insurance-based system, where licensing costs may be reduced and protection coverage improved.

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[TOM4CWB]

Oneoff,

Why SHOULD my farm... pay you to get a premium
from folks who are HIGH risk buyers?

HOW is that fair?

This is about FREEDOM... deal with the CWB if you want
a cradle to grave payment policy!

Cheers

[oneoff]

Throwing red herrings is not constructive.

You should work for the common good as well as for your personal intersts; especially if you are interested in representing more than just yourself.

There is the distinct possibility; that what is good for others; is also good for everyone; and not everyone is a leech on society. We are after all; in this together Tom.

And your Cheers could be seen as quite annoying.

[Tucker]

Okay, here's an example. I sold some barley to a local pig feed mill a few years ago because I needed a couple bins free
and the local elevators were full at the time. 10 working days and the check would be in the mail. I said I wanted a
cheque on delivery. "We don't do that". Fine, I sold a couple loads, waited and sure enough, a cheque showed up. Now
they call for barley, I say "cheque on delivery" they say "nope, 10 working days" I say "well I guess you don't get my
barley"

Where's the problem? They want my barley they know how to get it. If enough guys sell to them on their terms--fine. I
won't be one of the non-paid farmers when they go bankrupt. I'll take a nickel less and sell to the nearest line company
who will give me a cheque on delivery. Free market is awesome, no?

[furrowtickler]

That is exactly what we should all do tucker.

[TOM4CWB]

Oneoff;

"You should work for the common good as well as for
your personal intersts; especially if you are interested
in representing more than just yourself."

I will work for the common good of responsible folks
who are ethical and don't propose to take a neighbours
(OUR) property. You purpose mandatory risk pooling...
Our Family and partners need responsive marketing
tools that Have integrity. Not be forced into laws that
lower security/efficiencies; at a higher cost.

Have a great day

[oneoff]

The message of "Cheers" and "Have a nice day" comes through loud and clear. Every time.
And it doesn't take a very big man to admit the few redeeming points in such business practices as the former CWB operation (or even the current CWB) as it now exists.

You are carrying hatred to a level where it is poisonous; even to yourself.

Plain old feed barley is being covered by CGC bonds. Recently happened.

Neither do I see how Visa is going to return your grain; particularly after it has just been fed to the pigs. I mean who will haul the fertilizer back; and who pays the freight.

Further; I haven't heard of any feedlot or grain dealer ever agreeing to make payment using a credit card. Nice way to build in a 3% additional cost to farmers. Those kinds of solutions aren't feasable; so why not stick to some solutions that have some common sense behind them; instead of promoting mere distractions.

Tom you're blowing smoke. Give it up and move on.