More chatter on Stamp Farms etc.

[wd9]

Bayer has done an amazing job at telling
you to early buy super expensive seed
that is just as good as many other
varieties. They are genius at marketing.

The recent ads, brilliant. You feel good
by buying bayer. Your wife and farm
partner is respected by bayer. On and
on. Brilliant. Keep writing cheques
earlier and earlier for more and more
because like a lemming, everyone else
is.

[furrowtickler]

Saddly right on wd9, unless that somehow stops the price of canola seed will continue to climb ever higher. No one to blame but the farmer himself..

[hobbyfrmr]

Wd9,

Agreed. A brilliant example of good marketing to
the target customer. The message is well
planned, the theory is believable enough to get
the customers to act. Then seed companies have
the cash and all winter to arrange how much seed
will be necessary. All nicely controlled. Minimal
volatility or risk on Bayer supply side. Nice and
smooth. I really hate to say it, but that.......is good
business.

[grrrr]

Getting back to Stamp Farms: I just did some quick figuring. I went back 10 years and took my average net farm income. If I were to project that to a 40,000 acre farm, Stamp Farms should be making an average of $3,452,400. per year. My farm is nowhere near that size and since we all know that bigger is always more efficient (HA,HA,HA) Stamp should have been making even more. I think this shows that economies of scale end and can even go backwards if a farm gets too big.

[furrowtickler]

Bingo grrr. I have seen it first hand right beside us, and am witnessing others as time goes on. A few know their limits but most do not - remember that disease "supermanitis" ? Very few make er out alive...

[sumdumguy]

Grrr, Smaller farmers micromanage and have
their own skin in the game. Super farms rely on
others and assume that they will treat the farm
like their own, except ... There's the rub.

I dont need to remind any of you that
management is the key.

[SASKFARMER3]

All great points.
Read about one earth they lost money again. Big
money!

[seabass]

Not according to the Donk on the superfarm broadcast. Made it sound good anyhow.

[poorboy]

A lot of income comparisons is directly related to farm size. How many small farms are paying themselves a wage and then measuring net income? Once your farms expands enough to require extra help and you have to pay a wage, that extra land usually has less net income than the first land with no wages attached.

Problem is you need to eat and live. So on the first part of your farm, there is now wages paid, but your net income usually has to provide for your living expenses. So if your farm is too small there is nothing left for farm expansion once your living is accounted for.

I think that is part of the reason that farm expansion has occured. It is taking more acres to provide for the type of lifestyle the operator would like to have.

With rented land the net income is that much lower and it takes way more land to live the lifestyle than it would if all land was owned.

I live in an area that has almost zero land sales. Only way to expand is to rent.

[BTO_farmall]

BlewFargo - Dumb F#ckin Farmers Speak again. Irrigation will work Each and Everywhere, No Need to Think it Out. All yous needs is a Grain Buyer, DUH. Irrigation = GOD. Simply turning 120 Bu ground into 200 Ground Works, Crunch the numbers 4yous: 120 Bu X $7 = $840/ 200 Bu X $7 = $1400/ Difference of $560 per acre X 133 acres under Pivot = $74,480 - CONGRATULATIONS, You just bought and payed fer 2 Pivots with all that extra profit, by SIMPLY Irrigating. BUT Wait, You Guys are Dumb F#ckin Farmers that knowitall, Legends in yer Own Minds!!!!!!!!!!