Best Way to keep your costs Down

[tubs]

the media is trying to tell an incomplete story again the fact is the are fully expensed out over 42 years. If you want freedom you have to spend some coin 1 billion a year is a small price to pay. lets dump the cbc

[HappyFarmer]

Everyone who is against this should think about
how much more it would cost to do this 10 to 15
years down the road.

[oneoff]

For those who are just starting to feel their control slip away.....tough.....there's always a corner somewhere to set up your own private pan handling station.

[oneoff]

Remember the classic quote about how nothing could possibly go wrong. Something about Saskatchewan's economy could be mismanaged and we'd still be able to break even.....

author (un)known?

[oneoff]

"But I guess agriculture is about politics and not running a good business. Or perhaps being a millionare with more money than you know what to do with and loads of time to talk about things you can't control/have limited impact on your business."


Just depends where you get to sit within the agriculture industry. I you're a spin doctor then maybe you're 100% correct; even with any implied sarcasm.

In any case you are correct about the politics part; and the lack of control over one's destiny.

In between the lines there is nothing but self interest being seen as important.

Look at the Japan "tidal wave" video to get a feel of about the level of control farmers truly have.

[oneoff]

"An interesting market and nobody seems to talk about it or provide alternatives. But perhaps the criticial factors are what you in your business and not what people talk about on Agriville"

The best side of being diagnosed as " myopic" is that your first pair of glasses will show you a whole new world of the details you've never noticed before.

[Wheatking]

Not really sure on weather the planes
are a good deal or not, but don't we
have military requirements that would be
a higher priority right now. Such as
some new helicopters so we could perform
some timely search and rescue
operations. Or how about some new ice
breakers that would give us the arctic sovereignty they talk about, and perhaps
it help facilitate some trade.

Just seems to me our needs vs wants
might be a little misplaced on this one.
I would argue that replacing the sea
kings should be the # 1 priority for our
military.

[agstar77]

Stealth fighters are every little airman's dream.

[ColevilleH2S]

Agstar

Ever got into a fist-fight with the Invisible man?

[Fransisco]

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/straighttalk/archives/2012/12/20121214-074521.html

Feds told truth on F-35: Opposition about clipping air force wings

You are being lied to about the cost of fighter jets, except the lying isn’t being done by the government.

If you’ve paid attention to the news at all lately, you’ve heard about the “rising costs” of replacing Canada’s aging fleet of CF-18 fighter jets with the new F-35.

Initial government costs to buy the plane came in at $9 billion, but this week headlines screamed about the cost being $46 billion.

What a load of garbage.

A report from auditing firm KPMG, commissioned by the government, said the full cost of the plane, from development through operating and on to decommissioning, was $45.8 billion.

That estimate includes fuel, pilots and maintenance — all things that would need to be paid for regardless of which plane is purchased.

It is a strange form of accounting that says we need to account for every shoelace and jug of windshield washer fluid that might come near the planes.

Can you imagine what the cost of your car would be if you calculated its cost over decades, including estimates of every brake job, oil change and fill-up?

We don’t do this for other government programs or purchases, yet the opposition and the media demand that this is the only true way to account for military purchases.

When a previous Liberal government promised a new national daycare program, no one asked what it would cost over 40 years.

In fact, the F-35 program was signed on to by the Liberals and no one asked back then how much this would cost over four decades.

Here is something remarkable you haven’t seen in the headlines.

The report from KPMG found that the government had been telling the truth from the beginning: The cost to just buy the planes was less than $9 billion.

There are plenty of areas to criticize this government about when it comes to spending, but fighter jets that we haven’t purchased just isn’t one of them.

The money hasn’t been spent and even if we do buy the F-35, it will be money well spent compared to other budget items.

National defence is actually a responsibility of the federal government under the constitution unlike, say, running a television network or giving out corporate welfare under the guise of “economic development.”

If we accounted for the cost of CBC and economic development the same way the opposition and media demand we account for the F-35, both would cost more over the next

40 years than the fighter jets.

What this is really all about is an attempt to make sure that Canada does not have a suitable military.

There is a significant segment of the population that thinks the military should just do peacekeeping, search-and-rescue and snow removal in Toronto.

This part of Canada doesn’t want us to have fighter jets or a military capable of going into battle if need be.

Unfortunately, a large part of the media and both opposition parties fall into this camp.

Sure, they will tell you they are worried about the cost, but then will say we need to look at fighter jets other than the F-35.

We did exactly that on my show Byline and found that the alternatives to the F-35 cost as much or more than the plane we should apparently avoid.

This fight of the last few months isn’t about whether we should buy the F-35.

It is about whether we should have a properly equipped military.

[Fransisco]

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[Fransisco]

So there we go mus, once again you have shown us your preference for Liberal/NDP talking points over basic math.

[ASRG]

Just wondering how much cheaper would a fairly decent missile defense system and som srveilance drones be? The way things are going fighter jets are probably a thing of the past?
Why are we buying attack jets? Are we going to invade Poland or something?

[stubblejumper]

Fran are you really quoting Sun news as a reliable source???

[checking]

Best way to keep your costs down ... have the yanks buy their 7100 planes. There is some concern that that will not happen. Hence your conservative math on what our 65 purchases will cost is just smoke.

Your rebuttal man was cut off as he was attempting to explain that the cost was not $1 billion per year over 42 years. Your math spin is just as bad as any media spin.