what's wrong with politics?

[tipsy]

BTW.. nothing to do with marketing!
Remus Ruudd
No matter what side of the political fence you're on, this is very telling! It just all depends on how you look at the same things.
Judy Harper an amateur genealogy reseacher in Northen Ontario, was doing some personal work on her own family tree. She discovered that Prime Minister Stephen Harper's great-great uncle Remus Rudd, was hanged for horse stealing and train robbery in Winnipeg in 1889. Both Judy and Stephen Harper share this common ancestor.
The only known photograph Remus shows him standing on the gallows at the Manitoba Provinical jail.
On the back of the picture Judy obtained during her reseach is this inscription: 'Remus Rudd horse thief,sent to Stoney Mountain jail 1885,escaped 1887, robbed the CP and CN trains six times.
Caught by Mounted Police Force, convicted and hanged in 1889.'
So Judy recently e-mailed Prime Minister Harper for inmormation about their great-great uncle Ramus Rudd.
Believe it or not, Harper's staff sent back the following biographical sketch for her genealogy research:
" Remus Rudd was famous in Ontario during the mid to late 1800's. His business empire grew to include of valuable equestrain assets and intimate dealings with CP and CN Railways.
Beginning in 1883, he devoted several years of his life to government serivce, finall taking leave to resume his dealings with the railroads.
In 1887, he was a key player in a vital investigation run by the Mounted Police Force. In 1889, Remus passed away during an important civic function held in his honour when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed."

NOW Thats whats wrong with politics and politicians. Spin every incident,event and happening to suit your needs. Regardless of what really the facts are.

[mcfarms]

well then they are both related to Austrailian PM Kevin Rudd, because that is where this online hoax started.( google remus rudd)

[LWeber]

Judy Wallman, a professional genealogy researcher in southern California , was doing some personal work on her own family tree. She discovered that Congressman Harry Reid's great-great uncle, Remus Reid, was hanged for horse stealing and train robbery in Montana in 1889.. Both Judy and Harry Reid share this common ancestor.
The only known photograph of Remus shows him standing on the gallow in Montana territory:
On the back of the picture Judy obtained during her research is this inscription: 'Remus Reid, horse thief, sent to Montana Territorial Prison 1885, escaped 1887, robbed the Montana Flyer six times. Caught by Pinkerton detectives, convicted and hanged in 1889.' So Judy recently e-mailed Congressman Harry Reid for information about their great-great uncle. Believe it or not, Harry Reid's staff sent back the following biographical sketch for her genealogy research:

"Remus Reid was a famous cowboy in the Montana Territory . His business empire grew to include acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and intimate dealings with the Montana railroad. Beginning in 1883, he devoted several years of his life to government service, finally taking leave to resume his dealings with the railroad. In 1887, he was a key player in a vital investigation run by the renowned Pinkerton Detective Agency. In 1889, Remus passed away during an important civic function held in his honor when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed."

[TOM4CWB]

Tipsy,
"BTW.. nothing to do with marketing!"

It shows there are many people who misrepresent what
they are doing, why they do, it is what they are doing...

And there are more folks than just 'politicians' doing
this!

Getting folks to buy what you are selling... is what
marketing IS all about... and presentation, is 99
percent of the sell... with a little supporting evidence
that APPEARS to back the story.

Are you a politician Tipsy? I would say so!

[burnt]

"NOW Thats whats wrong with politics and politicians. Spin every incident,event and happening to suit your needs. Regardless of what really the facts are."


That's pretty funny Tipsy!

[TOM4CWB]

Judy seems to be a popular name... just change the
last name... Rudd, Harper, whatever is needed.

"Brief Analysis
The claims in the message are false. Kevin Rudd has
no such ancestor and no such "political spin" reply was
ever sent. In fact, the message is just one more version
of an old joke that has been used to target several
public figures in the United States and Canada. The
condemned man shown in the gallows photograph, is
Tom "Black Jack" Ketchum, a murderer and train robber
who was hanged in Clayton, New Mexico in April
1901."

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/remus-rudd-hanged-
horse-thief-hoax.shtml

[TOM4CWB]

How "Black Jack" Ketchum was captured and hung...

"Ketchum later reported, "I tried a dozen times to
mount my horse but was too weak to do it." Weary and
dizzy from the pain, he sat down to wait for the posse.
Early the next morning as the sun was coming up, a
freight train heading from Folsom passed by the
robbery scene. A man was seen about 100 yards from
the train, waving his hat on the end of his gun, as a
signal. When the train was stopped and the conductor
and brakeman approached, Black Jack drew a gun on
them. The conductor said, "We just came to help you
but if this is the way you feel, we will go and leave
you." Black Jack responded, "No boys, I am all done,
take me in." (In other accounts, Sheriff Saturinino
Pinard is credited with the arrest). Black Jack was
carried to the train, placed in the caboose and taken
into Folsom.

At first, Black Jack stated that his name was George
Stevens and that the would-be robbery was his first
attempt at a hold up and a mighty poor one. He was
taken on the first passenger train to Trinidad,
Colorado and placed in San Rafael Hospital, where his
arm was amputated. When he was able to travel, he
was taken to Santa Fe for safekeeping. Later, he was
transferred to Clayton, New Mexico for trial, where he
pled innocent, but the judge found him guilty and
sentenced him to death by hanging.

The hanging was delayed several times until lawmen
heard rumors that the old gang was going to attempt
to free Tom. Therefore, a decision was finally made
and the hanging was scheduled on April 26, 1901 at
8:00 a.m. The hanging was a big attraction with stores
closing and saloons remaining open, doing a brisk
business. People came from all over the area to see the
big event, where the local lawmen were selling tickets
to view the hanging, as well as little dolls of Tom
hanging on a stick.

However, the town of Clayton had no experience in
hanging a man and there was a debate concerning the
length of rope. The night before the scheduled
hanging, the rope was tested by attaching a 200-
pound sandbag to the noose and dropping it through
the trap. Finally, at 1:13 p.m. Thomas "Black Jack"
Ketchum was taken to the scaffold. While they were
adjusting the hood, Ketchum stated, "Hurry up boys,
get this over with." Finally, Sheriff Garcia took two
blows with a hatchet, cutting the rope and Tom fell
through the trap.

Unfortunately, the inexperienced hangmen had
forgotten about the sandbag they had used to test the
rope and the weight of it caused the rope to be as rigid
as wire. When Black Jack fell through the drop, he was
immediately decapitated. The black hood pinned to his
shirt was the only thing that kept his head from rolling
away. A few minutes later the doctor pronounced him
dead, then sewed his head to his torso prior to the
burial at the Clayton's Boothill at 2:30 P.M. In the
1930's his body was moved to the new cemetery in
Clayton, where it remains today.

Black Jack Ketchum was the only person ever hanged
in Union County, New Mexico. He was also the only
person who suffered capital punishment for the
offence of "felonious assault upon a railway train" in
the State of New Mexico. Later, the law was found to
be unconstitutional, but way too late for Thomas
Ketchum. According the annals of American
Jurisprudence at the time, he was the only criminal
decapitated during a judicial hanging in the U.S. The
only other recorded example was in England in 1601.
Later, the same thing occurred at the hanging of one
Eva Dugan at the Pinal County, Arizona prison in
1930."
http://www.legendsofamerica.com/we-
blackjackketchum2.html

Proves crime does not pay!

Cheers

[wilagro]

Tom...you are a "spoil-sport"...we all new it was a hoax but you had to defend your messiah's name (Harper).

No sense of HA!HA! I see.

[wilagro]

Yes, I gnu that I had miss-spelled knew but I blame it on this wireless keyboard. If you try and rush things it drops letters and sometimes quits until its buffer is flushed or some such ting. Might have to go back to wired keyboard...and the cordless mouse eats batteries like mad...damned thing.

[seabass]

Thanks so much Tom "Ezra Levant" CWB. Wouldn't know right from wrong without u around.

[TOM4CWB]

Willy,

Why don't you libel Obama? No 'fun'... or it is
'politically correct' for lefties to be defamatory
attacking PM Harper or Bush with false statements?

'Fun' for bullies... that do not care about the feelings
others they maliciously attack; when misrepresentation
is put forward as being true.

Why was "what's wrong with politics" with a misquote
from the PM's office used... that was false? PM
Harper... and our democracy... were libelled.

"As a general rule, defamation consists of printed
words (i.e., libel) and spoken words (i.e., slander) that
tend to lower a person's character in the estimation of
others."[The Libel and Slander Act]
http://www.justice.gov.sk.ca/Libel-and-Slander-Act

PM Harper is NOT my "messiah"... instead PM Stephen
Harper is a great leader we are blessed as a nation to
have in these times. I have found PM Harper, Minister
Ritz... and many others you defame Willy; to be honest
hard working individuals who do NOT deserve this
defamatory treatment.

But then intimidation; and being defamatory... appear
to be are your specialties... "What's wrong with
politics?"... honest people being attacked... then left
wing 'politically correct' abusers... bullies getting away
with this as being a joke with no consequences.

How do we attract GOOD HONEST people... to be
leaders... with this attitude?

This is a really good example of what is wrong with
politics in Canada!

God Bless Canada

[TOM4CWB]

Seabass;

What was that supposed to mean? What is your
standard for 'Truth'?

[katoe]

You used to bad mouth the liberals tom. Especially Ralph Goodale. So get off your high horse and give us a break.

[TOM4CWB]

Katoe,

Glad you brought up Minister Goodale and the
Liberals.

They knew better... but used us to maintain the power
they had. Goodale voted against CWB reform... which
appeared to be partisan politics...

Which is 'what is wrong with politics' far too often.

History will be the judge...

AND Katoe... we know who it will judge very harshly.

My conscience is clear!

IS YOURS?

Cheers

[seabass]

Ya Tom load your truck and run the border. If they let u thru keep going and take all your pulpet BS with u. I'm sure Bill O'Reilly and the likes of Glenn Beck will listen to your TRUTH's. LORD knows there totally honest folk.