If I here or read one more time "excellent growing conditions" I'm going to puke!

[dave4441]

SF3 you are so Agriville predicatable. I know what your response is before i even write a post. Your commnets on the crop are the same every year. So, my question is wether you puked or not? You said if you hear it once more then up in comes!! In all seriousness, some reds have started to be desicated in our area and we will likely start with glyphosate in next 7 days or so. We have had 8.5 inches of rain and according to Farmzone, this area has had higher growing degree days (or Heat units) then any year in the last 4 years. IN fact, each year has had more GDD then 2010 which was our last quality issue year. Warmth in June and warmer nights must have kept these numbers up. ANd crop shows it as first flower on lentils was last few days of June, first days of July. And our durum is turning fast, suspect 3 weeks or so until harvest, about mid dough stage today. What i am getting at is that the crop is variable across the prairies. IN lentils for every crop that is 1800 lbs we unforntuanatly need some to get 600 lbs to average 1200 lbs. Each area will increase or decrease from the number. And i am glad i dont have greens as i can see them being an issue with vine length. I am bullish greens bearish reds.

RE CAnaryseed our best years are always with wet cool july temps. The shallow root system cannot pump the water up quickly enough during head fill. Canary crop is also very variable from early seeding looking best, to late seeding looking shitty (for once we got canary in early and liquid N applied right away, also key factors i believe in canary production). We would like some rain on all the crops to finish them off, but i kinda suspect we dont get it in the SW. Seems to be trailing to the deep south lately. To date we have had 8.5 inches of rain from May 1 to today.

[freewheat]

So dave, my canary looks like a barley crop at early head. I have never seen
such massive amount of material at the early heading stage in canaryseed
anywhere before. It is crotch high and poking heads. I fear it will get 7
feet tall and fall over!

Will this massive growth translate into yield in your opinion? It is
seriously hard to walk through, I can't believe it!!! The other years I grew
canary, it headed out about 10 inches high, and still made 4 to 5 feet of
straw. That is my concern this year, that it will be all straw. But there
are a lot of heads this year. Is it a 40-50 bushel year, or what??? Our july
has been very cool except the first few days, what you have seen makes
theoretical sense at least visually...

[sumdumguy]

In 1981, our canary was 51/2ft tall with long
heads. It lodged badly. Combining was not fun,
but it yielded over 50 bushels per acre.

[dave4441]

Generally, a good looking canary crop tends to yield well. There has been a couple years, where fallow crops with lots of available N have had nothing in the head. ALl my canary is on Lentil Stubble and in the SW, and if it looks good it has been good. We had 16 inches of rain on canary one year, could hardly walk thru it and it went 33 across the farm which i am happy with. I have had one 40 bushel stubble canary crop, in 2010, which was excessively wet and cool and we hit our best yield. Hopefully it yields well for you. Have heard more success stories in your region then this region last couple years due to early terminal drought and guys have backed away from canary in general because of it. Sample your bins well as buyers need to see samples prior to delivery now due to MExican access issues!

Dave

[freewheat]

Thanks for the info, Dave! I have grown it three times now, and
have never seen it so vigourous and thick before. 40 would be
nice... lol

Put 50 lbs. of n on canola stubble. Seed placed a bit of p and k
for the chloride.

Thanks again for the info. Canary is one crop where guys have
such a variance in yield and luck and agronomic theory. Good to
have more ideas to stew on.

[dave4441]

Would love to see you get a bin buster freewheat.
Let us know how it turns out and the great thing
about canary and frost is it will only drop your
weight. In 2004 I went to look at frozen canary
where it froze when grass green Aug 9th (think
that was the date) Yield was still there but bushel
weight was 35 lbs instead of 50. Still marketable
though. Market jumped up due to frost and then
fell because way more product came out of the
frozen area then the trade expected.