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    #11
    "NFU president Terry Boehm said
    amendments to the existing act could be
    a significant infringement on farmers’
    rights.
"

    Farmers have no 'rights'. Its a
    privilege given to farmers only if the
    breeders want to give up their own
    legislated rights.

    So many misconceptions.

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      #12
      Exactly WD9, Seed companies can use contracts to limit the the use of grain grown from certified seed just as they do in the canola seed industry. Farmers can then choose to pay or not to pay. so why do we need to change this system? for the reasons I listed above....

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        #13
        wd9, a business but UNLIKE any other. So there
        may have to be a few concessions. Like cotton
        said most business managers wouldn't want to
        operate in our business environment. Sad part is
        we are the first rung in the ladder and those above
        us dont do alot of conceding. So who's looking out
        for us? Individually we are powerless united we
        would be better off and in some cases we have
        Government as a bit of a watch dog but it seems to
        be old and toothless lately. Survival of the fittest,
        but without some sort of Scales of Justice the
        bastards will even grind down the strong.

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          #14
          The Canola seed system is a prime example of what happens when you let companies run the seed system.
          1. After a few years they drop varieties and say oh you cant seed them any more because were deregulating them. So all our old varieties are gone like the wind.
          I would love to find a old variety of non GMO from back back. Seed with our 100lb ammonia and 120 sulfur phos blend. Yes do edge before then centurion with and give it a disease control if needed. I bet it would out yield our current varieties by 10 or more. Yes would be 6 ft. tall and lots of plant mass but pods the size of peas. But sorry their gone like the dinosaur.
          Our seed costs since ok 1970 went from low 5.00 a acre to 70 now. What do we get as farmers for this great tec. Yes spray with Liberty or RR but other than that NOTHING. Yield this is the BS part some of you have only started growing and had very very good yields this isn't the norm. Growing over the long run their were huge yields back over the years. With old varieties.
          So all geniuses who think this is good give the farm away one more time and guess what you will make Sweet F%&k All for profit and guess what the companies will make huge huge profits and once its gone like Canola its gone forever.
          Wheat is a filler crop that is cheap to grow and gives you a nice return once the CWB is gone. Why F*&k it up.
          We just grew the largest wheat crop ever with FERT CHEM AND GOOD seed with old tec do you think theirs will give us more. Yea More BS flyers and BS stats and BS.
          Once its gone its gone. IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!

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            #15
            I just did some internet research on
            wheat yields(this info is readily
            available:North Dakota Wheat
            Commission,Wiki answers...The yields
            depend on location,types of
            wheat,farming practices
            Kansas,ND,Montana for dry land is 30-50
            bu/ac Nebraska is 44 winter wheat in
            Montana from 2006-2011 was 41 bu/ac USA
            for all wheat in 2010 and 2011 was 46
            average for all of USA is 38-45 bu/ac
            Manitoba in last 10 years is 43 SK in
            last 7 years is 35 from 2002-2011 in
            Alberta was 43 What do these numbers
            tell us?

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              #16
              Mother nature and being in a shorter growing season would be my guess.

              I am not ready to say it has anything to do with new varieties or dollars spent on research.

              I have grown great crops with 2 inches of rain, and shitty ones with 36 inches.

              Same fertilizer, chemical and varieties.

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                #17
                If there was a commercial pull for 2
                dollar a pound low yield non herbicide
                tolerant non hybrid canola seed, there
                would be a business quickly created to
                provide it. But no one wants it.

                The most expensive seed is ALWAYS sold
                out first. You can buy 5 to 7 dollar RR
                seed, lots of that available, that
                yields dam close to the 'best'. Seems
                what farmers do with their wallets and
                what they post on Agriville don't seem
                to match.

                Would you seriously want to go back to
                public breeding OP's in canola? Doubt
                it.

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                  #18
                  How much per tonne are the end royalties
                  in Australia. Is there a cost per bushel
                  to retain seed for future planting and
                  if so what is the cost? Does any one
                  know which SK farm groups were in favour
                  of the UPOV'91 legislation? Maybe they
                  could comment on how growers will
                  benefit. The yields in the USA and
                  Canada are very close.Of course most of
                  their varieties are from public breeding
                  programs. Is their public breeding
                  program experiencing cutbacks like ours?

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                    #19
                    In Mar.20,2013 in AGCanada.com De
                    Rocquinay states that" Manitoba does
                    generally have higher spring wheat
                    yields compared to our counterparts
                    south of the border." He goes on to
                    state "In Australia in 2000 95% of the
                    wheat breeding was done by the public
                    sector. With major changes(including
                    single desk selling)by 2012,100% of
                    wheat breeding was done by 6 private
                    sector companies".How have these changes
                    in Australia affected yields,seed costs
                    and the bottom line? Are Australian
                    farmers happy with this? If not what is
                    their recourse?

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                      #20
                      So with all the super breading it seems in Canada with our varieties were just as good or higher. Hm maybe again its our farming practice of no till and fert. Our piss poor average for wheat yields on some years is probably due to frost. 2002 and 2004 screwed us. rest were good to normal like this year. so average 2 f*&ked and 6 average and two way high gives you 37 to 40. USA doesn't have frost to wipe out but has drought.

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