Plant Breeders' Rights

[bucket]

Interesting reply to that wd9.

Must be some truth to it.

[wd9]

Lets just all agree with the NFU. Then we
can delete Agriville.

[grower99]

Malleefarmer thanks for the information
It's nice to have that info for a good
discussion. So if I grow 40,000 bu or
1089 tonne of a new variety I will
pay:.20 x 1089 .03 x 1089 $3.00 x
1089 40,000 x $6.00(market value of a
bu)x %1.02 $218 $327 $3267
$2448. So I would pay $6258. Is that
correct for the 2013/14 year. If I save
my seed for 2014/15 and grow 40,000 is
everything the same for this year and
for the next 4 or 5 years if
things(yield and price ie $6) remain the
same ?

[hedgehog]

I just had to pay £1900 for royalties on home saved seed for 2012 and 13.
Some varieties are woth it, others not.
We have english canola varieties foisted on us that are not suitable for our climate.
As sask says, give us back the 6ft tall stuff from 1986.

[katoe]

Sounds like some good questions for wheat commissiom candidates.

[wd9]

Anyone know how the US does it?

[Rareearth]

World record wheat yield is 223 bushels per acre
or (15.015 t/ha). Set in 2003 New Zealand.

Seems the technology of the last 10 years hasn't
been enough to top the record.

[bgmb]

Wd9, forget about the USA they dont look at us
and say geez maybe we should do what canada
is doing look how great it is. American wheat
varities are nothing special.

Fact is we as farmers need to question who is
pushing for this change and who is guaranteed to
profit from it. Answers to those questions are very
obvious.

[wd9]

Western Barley growers do, at least so
says their media position. Most groups
if you look deep in policy support
protection of intellectual property and
that would include upov 91.

What makes you think Canada would be any
different then the US in terms of
royalty and business? End use royalties
would be a hard push i would think here
in Canada. We are not like Australia who
use it to fund so many things and are
quite used to it.

[bgmb]

I would not be opposed to .50 cents a tonne into a
public breeding program. Better than what the
canola growers do with the dollar they take off
every canola

[rockpile]

Too late - the horse has left the barn! And the
pitchfork in the corner is for you.

[gustgd]

I support the UPOV treaty. I wish it would have
been implemented back in 91 while we still had a
strong public program.

As it is the federal government has announced
that it will not be finishing varieties past I think the
F5 stage. As I understand F8 is a finished variety.

There is a 50 million dollar loss in varietal
research in Canada per year. With the taxpayer
backing away, where do you want your varieties
to come from? Whomever said they would
contribute .50c/tonne is likely sort by a couple
bucks.

Another piece negotiated into UPOV is that they
can only collect one time. Front end on seed sales
or back end on a royalty. I would suspect that
Canada will follow the Aussie example where
brown bagged is the answer and you pay on a
successful harvest.

The key will be more competition where many
companies go head to head in breeding and try to
win your business.