Plant Breeders' Rights

[bucket]

Mother nature and being in a shorter growing season would be my guess.

I am not ready to say it has anything to do with new varieties or dollars spent on research.

I have grown great crops with 2 inches of rain, and shitty ones with 36 inches.

Same fertilizer, chemical and varieties.

[wd9]

If there was a commercial pull for 2
dollar a pound low yield non herbicide
tolerant non hybrid canola seed, there
would be a business quickly created to
provide it. But no one wants it.

The most expensive seed is ALWAYS sold
out first. You can buy 5 to 7 dollar RR
seed, lots of that available, that
yields dam close to the 'best'. Seems
what farmers do with their wallets and
what they post on Agriville don't seem
to match.

Would you seriously want to go back to
public breeding OP's in canola? Doubt
it.

[grower99]

How much per tonne are the end royalties
in Australia. Is there a cost per bushel
to retain seed for future planting and
if so what is the cost? Does any one
know which SK farm groups were in favour
of the UPOV'91 legislation? Maybe they
could comment on how growers will
benefit. The yields in the USA and
Canada are very close.Of course most of
their varieties are from public breeding
programs. Is their public breeding
program experiencing cutbacks like ours?

[grower99]

In Mar.20,2013 in AGCanada.com De
Rocquinay states that" Manitoba does
generally have higher spring wheat
yields compared to our counterparts
south of the border." He goes on to
state "In Australia in 2000 95% of the
wheat breeding was done by the public
sector. With major changes(including
single desk selling)by 2012,100% of
wheat breeding was done by 6 private
sector companies".How have these changes
in Australia affected yields,seed costs
and the bottom line? Are Australian
farmers happy with this? If not what is
their recourse?

[SASKFARMER3]

So with all the super breading it seems in Canada with our varieties were just as good or higher. Hm maybe again its our farming practice of no till and fert. Our piss poor average for wheat yields on some years is probably due to frost. 2002 and 2004 screwed us. rest were good to normal like this year. so average 2 f*&ked and 6 average and two way high gives you 37 to 40. USA doesn't have frost to wipe out but has drought.

[malleefarmer]

There are several State & Federal Government levies that as grain buyers from the Primary Producers Centre State Exports is legally obligated to deduct from the grower payment and pay directly to the appropriate government agency on the grower’s behalf. These levies are as listed below

State Levies - 2013/14 season

Primary Industry Funding Scheme (PIFS) - $0.20/t
Grain Research and Development Fund (PIFS GRDF) - $0.30/t

Federal Levies - 2013/14 season

Department of Agriculture, Fisheries & Forestry Australia (AFFA) – 1.02% of farm gate value

End Point Royalties - 2013/14 season

Grain producers are legally obligated to pay end point royalties on certain crop varieties. To assist grain producers and royalty managers Centre State Exports will deduct the applicable end point royalty from grower payments and remit the funds to the relevant royalty manager. All varieties, relevant breeders and rates are listed below.
End point royalty depends on how old the variety is usually between $3.00 per tonne and $1 and levy is lfted after 5 or 6 years.
when delivered to bulk handling system type is declared and levy automatically comes of payment so seed can be bulked up but levy still paid
A lot of breeding here is done by ag universities some private some multinational Australian farmers don't even blink at paying levies and some guys still grow wheat that's been around for 25 years

[malleefarmer]

should add I was mostly reffering to wheat canola is 85% done by multi national companies

[grassfarmer]

I thought you grain guys would have been aware of this sooner - the NFU has been working on it for
20 years. Bit late now to ask "what can be done to stop it?"

Here is a submission the NFU made to CFIA on the topic in 2005.
http://www.nfu.ca/sites/www.nfu.ca/files/AMMENDMENTS%20CFIA%20Brief%20March%202005.pdf

Bad news for farmers but good for corporate representatives like wd9

[wd9]

Asshole comment grassfarmer.

[bucket]

Interesting reply to that wd9.

Must be some truth to it.

[wd9]

Lets just all agree with the NFU. Then we
can delete Agriville.

[grower99]

Malleefarmer thanks for the information
It's nice to have that info for a good
discussion. So if I grow 40,000 bu or
1089 tonne of a new variety I will
pay:.20 x 1089 .03 x 1089 $3.00 x
1089 40,000 x $6.00(market value of a
bu)x %1.02 $218 $327 $3267
$2448. So I would pay $6258. Is that
correct for the 2013/14 year. If I save
my seed for 2014/15 and grow 40,000 is
everything the same for this year and
for the next 4 or 5 years if
things(yield and price ie $6) remain the
same ?

[hedgehog]

I just had to pay £1900 for royalties on home saved seed for 2012 and 13.
Some varieties are woth it, others not.
We have english canola varieties foisted on us that are not suitable for our climate.
As sask says, give us back the 6ft tall stuff from 1986.

[katoe]

Sounds like some good questions for wheat commissiom candidates.

[wd9]

Anyone know how the US does it?