Don't count on Agristability

[bucket]

Mostly against myself to do better.

I enjoy growing a good crop, but have made more money on shitty ones.

Besides I have passed alot of sprinters in my career that were well ahead of me.

[bucket]

ado089

"idiot bureaucrats"

Bingo, but they are playing with the public's money.

Yours and mine.

And our kid's as well.

Here is a government that can't get the age younger in agriculture and can't figure out why?

No young kid can compete against the CPP.

Bigger issues are afloat in this deal that you shouldn't ignore.

[farmaholic]

ado089; please address your therapy question to
blackpowder. No apology required.

[bucket]

ado089

Assiniboia's management has been on the public tit for years.

This was either a bailout or a corrupt scheme by them and the idiot bureaucrats.

Needs a look in either case.

Please don't ignore the fact that the deal stinks.

[ado089]

My bad farmaholic, Xmas plus
loading rail cars equals tired
eyes. Bucket, you'll get no
argument from me that the deal
stinks but the farm community
receiving an unprogramed
bailout would be equally
repugnant. The good news is
that we'll likely get a crack
at buying that land back for50
to 60 cents on the dollar

[farmaholic]

ado; are you weighing what you're putting in each
car. How long does it take you to load a car. What
is the acceptable range of tonnes per car. What is
your deadline once they are spotted.. provide lots
of info.

[fjlip]

Where do we find buyers for rail cars of CWRS wheat? Are cars through CGC, CWB or does the buyer do paper work?

[grower99]

I think the "farmer friendly" federal
government's Ag Stability program is
absolutely ridiculous. Who is it
helping? Surely not the farmers! With
public breeding and Ag Stability being
neutered and UPOV'91 on the horizon the
federal cutbacks to balance the
deficit(not the same as our debt) are no
longer just being felt in the eastern
part of Canada but are now in our
backyard. Farmers are being taken for
granted by the feds!

[hobbyfrmr]

FJlip, order rail cars through the CGC.
Rail companies cannot remove a rail car from a
siding until it is released, by you faxing the
release document to the CGC. If anything you will
bust your ass to load them in a timely manner, fax
the release and they will sit longer than you
expect. All those stories about rail cars being
pulled away partially full is all line company
folklore to discourage farmers from doing it
themselves.
You really should make a solid effort loading rail
cars. Don't screw around/farmer time.
2btrians fills a rail car. The load weight for each
car is painted on the side of the rail car. Have a
backup auger (neighbour) in case you break
down. With 2 semis and a 13 inch auger
generally speaking you can load 4-6 rail cars in
daylight. You need a big tractor chained (front
and back)to the rail cars to move them.
ALWAYS HAVE THE HAND BRAKES ON A RAIL
CAR, BRAKE ALL RAIL CARS AT NIGHT WHEN
LEAVING SIDING.
ALWAYS WEIGH AND DOCUMENT/PRINT
WEIGHTS OF GRAIN THAT GO INTO RAIL CAR.
ALWAYS USE ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE
INSURANCE ON NEW BUYERS.

[ado089]

Everything is weighed, a
couple of us bought a set of
portable scales. Cars capacity
is printed on the side and if
I recall you can be over by
700kg, some lines going to the
states go over a scale they
will dump excess. Being under
will only hurt whoever is
paying the freight since
freight is by the car. Most
cars are 91 Mt with some jumbo
cars taking around 100mt. A
friend of mine is a grain
trader so he looks after most
of the logistics but he is an
organic trader so he expects
to make a lot of money on it,
but still far better than the
line companies. i get paid 80%
on net 30 and remainder at
unload. The worst part is you
never know when they will show
up. The cars I'm loading this
week we're orders for the end
of November. They are expected
to be loaded in 24hrs but 2 or
3 days is usually ok. They
don't charge demurage on
producer cars but if you dink
around too long it becomes
difficult to get them spotted
in the future. You can move
the auger instead of the cars
on heavier product and a
couple of the sidings I load
on don't have room to move the
cars such as Biggar CP where
I'm loading now.

[farmaholic]

Thank you guys.

[farmaholic]

Thank you guys.

[AllisWD45]

Regarding Assiniboia CPP land deal. I think this deal
was done because the time was right. I also believe
that they wanted to cash out and put the money into
their canola streaming company. That looks like the
future in input financing. Guys like Hudye did it for
years in their business as did some farm equipment
dealers on a smaller scale.
Full disclosure have no positions in either Assiniboine
or Input Capital Corp just sitting here digesting turkey
and rum and coke!

[bucket]

Cash out sounds great to eligible farmers but to sell to the government, well, something is rotten.

Investors were getting nervous and the wealthy have better connections to the tit.

If it was Potash it would be under review but farmland not a chance.

Closer to communism everyday.

[bucket]

Ok

Let's tie this together.

If the people at Assinibioa realized that agristability is not going to pay out for their renters, there is a pretty good chance they better dump the land they control.

They knew they couldn't go to their renters to buy because it would have quickly driven the price down leaving their investors with nothing but a capital loss. Their renters wouldn't pay the previous price that Assinibioa was aquiring the land at, a few years back, so they knew renters were not going to pay CPP prices. Especially considering current crop prices and no agristability payouts.

Their investors were getting nervous and started talking to their conservative friends. They quickly put a scheme together through the CPP. Much like they did with the duffy scandal.

And there you have it, all tied up in a neat little package.

A free conspiracy theory for today.

Just follow the people involved.