Cargill meeting in Regina kind of says what's next for farmers and it isn't great!

[bucket]

Right.

The better solution is for graincos to
build the required storage and have
grain ready near the transportation.

Its idiotic for farmers to build
warehouses. I would rather have condo
space at 3 elevators and haul when it
makes sense. Then it becomes a phone
call and refill when it schedules in for
me.

None of this constant train is late or
reassigned bullshit..

[malleefarmer]

there are quite a few farmer owned storage sites popping up across Australia mostly bunker site with tarps.

I can deliver grain to A class B class sites here there is a c class but not near me.

A class are "super sites" Im lucky enough to have one 28 kms away has 7 grades of wheat 6 grades of barley and one grade of canola

Super sites offer cheaper cheaper charges and warehousing costs but catch is there export only sites and ones grains in there cant be shifted out, wereas b class sites if I wanted to take out 100 tonne of wheat to a dairy farmer I can with a loading costs of course. Cost of storing grain is 50 cents per month for first three then $2 per after tha I think so can store no insect worries etc and sell to whoever when I want but again goes to a expoter.

from my site its railed to port

back to my point a lot of farmers are building sites next to rail lines to compete mostly in next state and can supply export market or domestic can be risky get a drought year have same costs less tonnes can come unstuck for new sites without capital reserves

[Hans]

Maybe the current situation will encourage graincos to invest in additional storage. I'm sure they wish they were profiting from it this year.

[wmoebis]

Don't worry about grain co's, they know
how o make money and building storage
isn't one of them they don't have to pay
for storage or grain before it is on
their driveway.
Check the stats there has been as much
if not more grain moved as any year.

[rockpile]

DO NOT BUILD INLAND STORAGE!!! Any future
investment should be for coastal storage - in place,
at the right time, taking advantage of lulls in rail
shipping, product immediately available for loading
aboard ships - 24/7. That is the best ROI and
regardless of what, you know who will foot the bill.
Also an interesting thought regarding a 3rd rail
network: regardless of what commodity or product
is coming in or going out, there is a huge part of
our gdp relying on rail service. Does anyone have
the vision to unite all these groups and build a
totally new rail network that is cooperatively owned?
Even just the talk of it would jar CN and CP to
rethink their long term plans.

[bucket]

I think, if I was paying attention in high school, that the national railroads in Canada were funded by the taxpayer.

Why wouldn't we do it again. The two existing railways don't give a shit about their customers or the country's economy. They can be weaned.

Now let's have another one and do it right this time.

[farmaholic]

Bucket....Why? So "THEY" can privatize it and let
the market "work".

[bucket]

Not to privatize it.

Nope, just to get the routes right. The operating rules properly written and to make sure that customers have a legitimate carrier.Nothing more or less.

This government isn't going to nationalize the railways.

But there has to be a better or at the least another option.

Besides with the exports we have it only makes sense.

It really had to be something way back when , they decided to build a railway.

You could call it almost visionary. Wish we had people like that today.

[sumdumguy]

Just think how valuable WIT would be if that
terminal was in Vancouver. Location - Location.
Problems in the Palliser Triangle.

[sumdumguy]

Bucket, can you imagine being Sir John A and
trying to build a national railway today? Yikes!
There would not be a hope in h. I think at one
time in Canada, there were actually four railway
companies. I know, not that interesting but of
some interest.

I challenge anyone to be a John A McDonald
today and twin these lines.

[bucket]

Yep.

Can't happen today because we lack visionary leadership in this country.

Wall wouldn't consider it. He will talk up BHP's mine at Jansen and K S at Bethune. In a couple more years the dumbshit is going to have rail space for that production.

And a twinned highway north out of Moose JAw. Instead they will wait for a couple of fatalities before they "study " it.

The leaders we have today, this country is going backwards. They will never get it. You don't build infrastructure after the boom you build it before.

But it is lesser of two evils, we could soon have a drama teacher for a leader. There is some good genetics that produced Justine Trudeau. Think about that?!