Ok Stephen Replace Ritz he's a Idiot!!

[Choice2U]

Everyone thinks, oil wins just by snapping their fingers. Saskatchewan has been hit hard by a shitty differential for the past 3 years whereby we have lost lots of money. Keystone has been in the plan to fix this problem for 6 years or more. The decisions by the oil industry to move to rail was probably made at least 3 years ago and that is why they are winning today....the oil tap didn't occur overnight. The Ag industry must now follow suit but not take 3 years to fix this mess. 1 year temporary fixes, 3 year medium term ideas and a 10 year plan with infrastructure. This system started east/west in 1885 to stop the US border from moving north, it grew east/west to populate western Canada, roads grew every direction within Canada to augment the 1 family per quarter, cities emerged and all roads began to improve towards Edm/Cal/Sk/Re/Wpg. 100 years later,in the 1980's or earlier, we should have been thinking about north/south infrastructure as the US was the powerhouse but we did nothing and then came NAFTA but still no north south infrastructure. Now the growth in the world is Asia (east/west again) and the US is quickly moving away from being the dominant player in the next 10 years. What should our medium or long term strategy look like? Not such an easy decision to be a politician.

[bucket]

Well, if the dumbfaucks had not torn out all the branchlines years ago we would have a start on twinning the lines and carrying capacity.

Between moose jaw and swift current, with an additional 30 miles of track, there could have been three routes making movement faster.

Instead they tore out 100s of miles of track claiming efficiencies.

It was and still is, all bullshit.

The railways tore out the track then for efficiency, and now they are reducing locomotives for the same reason.

WTF is wrong with the shareholders and governments that allow this to happen????

[fjlip]

Try GREED, $$$$ talks, we have no value in the chain, as I said.

[stonepicker]

I think i'll get into the rope selling business,
anybody who regularly reads these posts would
surely want to hang themselves! Biggest crop in
western can. history, of course there's gonna be
problems. If i was a grain company that couldn't
move the grain i was buying i would widen my basis
too. Why? Because i can't move it ! Let's bring back
the old CWB, i kinda miss those 3 bu/acre quotas (
for the whole crop year!) oops i forgot, i've already
moved 70% of this years crop. Sheesh! things hav
been alot tougher than they are this year!

[parsley]

Farmers working together is the key.

Making a contract with the buyer is crucial

Think of this:

A farmer wepage that states on a Tuesday
morning, after ending corp-farmer contract
negotiations, ( just as an example,)

"Carghiller rejects 2014 #IHRSW blanket
producer contract"

Would be be devastating for any grain company.
especially when Carghiller had left the table,
understanding that the next set of negotiations
for #1HRSW wouldn't occur until the 2015 crop
year.

All farmers would know that Carghiller had
rejected the blanket contract for a specific
commodity, and not deliver any #1HRSW in he
2014 crop year

The fancy word for it is blacklisting.

And move on to negotiate that particular
comoodity with the another company.

When you tie up two bulls, in the pasture, with
hobbles, they learn to get along.

Negotiation can take many forms. This is only
one of them. But a contract is essential

In the meantime, be ridden.




Sophisticated language

[parsley]

alwayshasbeen

The country is called : Universal
The commodity is : certified organics

•rail, air, boat, truck
•Dealing with all corps
•Timely and careful service
•global delivery
•including perishables
-traceable transit
•contracted
•FOB

[parsley]

alwayshasbeen

Certified organic farmers do not want to be subsidized, or lobby to be. Most dont even carry
crop or production insurance, but most do carry
hail insurance. pars

[Hopperbin]

grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Hopperbin]

Ok parsley sell 100,000 bushels of hard wheat 13 protein for me. Hope I did not flood the market. What do I get up front??? And if I don't produce it? Can I exit to California for a few months? don't the buyers ever have any trouble with quantity or quality???

[parsley]

I'm not suggesting you farm organically. I am
suggesting, though, that you note the process
often used for marketing.

Organic-marketing system uses:

1. Individual marketing.
2. Co-op marketing with other farmers
3. Corporate marketing


Or a combination of any two, all three.

But the price is FOB farm. And quite often, the
larger playaera, such as Whole Foods, has a
significant business relationship with all
transportation modes; contracts which are
negotiated annually.

I let them worry about the shipping. And
negotiate. And every player along the way has a
contract.

And they all depend upon supply... The farmer

[parsley]

Every buyer knows exactly what he is buying,
because the farmer matches the exact specs to
the buyers need. protein tested. Fallling #.
Weight. Size. Samples.etc.

It's a mutual effort. Oats can't be too big to pass
through a certain machine. Falling number has to
be just right to blend with other farmer's grain
which is perhaps a little low.

Every player tries to maximize his profit, but not
to the detriment of the final product.

It''s a system that was very different from
conventional agriculture, but conventional has,
and continues to, adopt many of organics' best
features.

The contract is key. Pars