What's up! Why some are pushing the new seed rules!

[Hopalong]

Tom, please explain wheat variety registration as
it applies to Canada's grade and class system.
This may be where some of the criticism should
be directed.

[oneoff]

Where are the other "39,000" farmers on this topic.?

[cottonpicken]

Can somebody explain this to me like i'm 3?

[SASKFARMER3]

Tim in god we trust! Yea like a seed grower is one
to trust! Follow the money we will all be using cert
seed in 5 years nicely pushed into it! We can't by
varieties that aren't from pioneer or Vitterra or
Cargill approved, oh yours yields better sorry not
one of ours so deep discounts! Put on same bin
as theirs! Follow the money Tommy boy has got it
figured out! Wink wink!

[TOM4CWB]

SF3,

In 2013 We grew: Farmpure Utmost, Secan Stettler and Foremost, CDC Meadow peas and Snowbird fabas.

Not 1 seed for a Multinational.

Be my guest and grow your own seed. many choices of Public varieties.

Why must you call me and my family names... We never sold you seed, and it is very very unlikely we ever will. I personally have nothing to gain... except: perhaps supplying growers high quality seed they need... in a sustainable manner... at lower cost to growers... to grow a good crop.

We are not perfect... but we do try to provide high quality planting seed.

Why else would anyone buy planting seed from a seed grower? Why are we now your enemy? Very curious.

SF3...Try to have a good day!

[Hopalong]

Tom, do not always agree with you but
congratulate you for holding your ground in the
face of cursing and name calling.
Hang in there.

[sawfly]

tom you are dead wrong ,

de registration . makes the variety illegal to sell in canada.

i was just at the Canadian food inspection agency web site.

check yourself on registration.

the pbr holder can give notice ,
and within 3 yr.s , it has to be gone
1 yr with hybrid canola

everyone should read it .
easy to find.

so in effect any pbr var. can be made illegal by a request from the holder.

perfect way to force us into the
collect royalty every year, seed.

i though you were the expert here.

[wd9]

But, if farmers own the varieties, then we
are the holder.

[TOM4CWB]

If the variety is 'cancelled' then it cannot be sold as that variety name any longer... but obviously can still be sold as grain.

Red Fife... is NOT a registered variety in Canada. Red Fife cannot be sold using the Seeds Act and Pedigreed seed system as pedigreed seed.

Red Fife is still in western Canada. It is not illegal to sell it in a loaf of bread at a farmers market... or even to an elevator.

My bet is that if you took that Red Fife south of the 49th... and the falling number was over 300... your could fetch a good milling wheat DNS price for Red Fife. Same for Thatcher.

While there many be reason to change the Seeds Act to put a 'Public Interest' into deregistration criteria... that is totally outside C-18 and UPOV91.

Once again. NOTHING has changed under C-18 to speed up or slow down deregistration of Varieties now registered in Canada. In fact if you checked the program being brought forward to streamline the registration process... IT WILL BE EASIER to REGISTER new varieties... in the future.

So you can reregister that 'old' variety if it is great for your farm... or just keep on growing it... if it is good quality... under contract even... with your elevator.

Now have a great evening!

[TOM4CWB]

BTW Sawfly,

PBR registration is a completely different process than the Variety Registration process.

If you want to... you can PBR register a type of wheat...NOT register it as a variety... and grow all of that type of wheat you want grown.

There is NO requirement whatsoever to PBR register your 'new' or 'old' grain/wht... in fact as a plant breeder specific limitations must be met to have a PBR registered product. Root crops, tree crops, fruit crops, and many other vegetative species that have special breeding are PBR.

If the specific genetics have been 'leaked' out before the release and PBR registration is completed... then THAT plant PRODUCT CANNOT QUALIFY for PBR registration.

AGAIN Variety Registration and PBR Registration are totally separate processes. Once a variety is registered... it remains registered for ever... unless the plant breeder requests deregistration. Many of our public varieties will remain registered... until the last seed stocks are gone... because of the 'public interest' and funding source that created that public variety.

You do a great disservice to the many plant breeders who take the 'public interest' VERY SERIOUSLY... and the many Select Seed Growers who totally support public varieties, increasing stock seed to insure you do have high quality genetics to plant... whether a public... PBR... or general release seed grain.

BTW PBR responsibilities are much stricter and restrictive... purity and the stability of the genetics are checked to assure the PBR product meets these higher standards. If they don't... PBR is lost... NOT the Variety... it becomes public.