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    A good 'un

    Check it out on a desktop as the graphics didn't work on my phone.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/

    #2
    http://all-natural.com/Alaska_Glaciers_Are_Growing/

    For 200 hundred years (even before greenhouse emissions were born from human activity ), glaciers in Alaska retreated, now they are mysteriously expanding.

    Maybe this has something to do with a natural long-term global climate cycle?

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      #3
      The UN delegation of global warming researchers getting their ship FROZEN in place and became part of an ice berg last year was rather humorous.

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        #4
        a natural long-term solar cycle.

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          #5
          http://www.iceagenow.com/List_of_Expanding_Glaciers.htm

          The expansion of glaciers is not just an Alaskan freak show. Check out the list of glaciers around the globe that are now expanding.

          Was personally at Hubbard glacier on Prince William sound this summer. It is experiencing a monster 7 feet of ice annual growth.
          These glaciers are 11 to 14 miles long and continually cave ice into icy water of Prince William.

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            #6
            Jwab, impossible for man to even guess. Speculation, at best. IMHO Let's all take a shot in the dark. Shrinking, receding, growing, whatever.

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              #7
              Our gov. here in Canada has done the right thing in following the USA and EU on engine emissions... reducing air pollution is smart and welcome. Carbon Capture programs have been encouraged by Ottawa. We are cleaning up our ocean shipping industry... Aircraft are burning less fuel and polluting much less... as are ground transportation agriculture and industry.

              There has been a bigger improvemet in my families air quality in our local community... much better than it has been for many decades. The brown haze normally over Edmonton is seldom seen now...

              Our Federal Gov. in Ottawa is getting a bad rap... for fixing our air pollution issue... they got slammed harder than any gov. before them. Provinces have jurisdiction over many local problems... but environmentalists pick on Ottawa... even when simple local solutions exist that responsible local and provincial leadership can implement if they choose.

              Blame PM Harper... he and the federal Conservatives are easy targets... when looking in the mirror and doing our best... to reduce conserve and upgrade equipment... will be the best path to better air quality and environment and nation. Personal Responsibility. I hate Black smoke coming out of my farm equipment. We burn half the fuel hauling now... with Superbees and well maintained efficient road equipment at higher cost for less fuel burned. Same with tractors and Combines. What about you Grassy; and Forage... what have you done to improve air quality???

              It all starts with us. WE are responsible.

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                #8
                I guarantee I burn less fuel in a year than you do in a week Tom. We build soil faster than a lot of people think is possible, increasing organic matter and sequestering carbon.
                Never got handed a cent for "carbon capture" like you plow jockeys with your behemoth fossil fuel burners though.

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                  #9
                  Grass farmer, please explain what you mean by this statement.


                  "Never got handed a cent for "carbon capture" like you plow jockeys with your behemoth fossil fuel burners though."

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                    #10
                    Hes referring to the $1-1.50 / acre we get thru carbon credit program. For zero till. Industry funded by large net emitters.
                    Of course we would have done it anyway as we burn 1/3 the fuel we used to.
                    Deep down hes got a chip of some kind. Possibly a internal conflict from the fact he sells the worlds most expensive protein, beef.

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                      #11
                      The reason you don't get anything grassy is because while sequester in carbon you are emitting far more methane Than the carbon you sequester.


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                        #12
                        And there is a limit to sequestration too. If you are farming, its about ten years and you no longer are doing that either. In other words, as Klause has said, you are actually part of the problem.

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                          #13
                          Nice try Klause but your conclusion is wrong. Research in the northern Plains proved over 7 tons per acre/per year of CO2 could be captured with good pasture management. This was proven over a 5 year trial.

                          Methane emissions are generally reckoned to be equivalent to 2.5tons a year of C02.

                          Most cattle operations in this part of the world use 4-5 acres per year per cow so we can sequester about 12 times as much as each cow produces.

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                            #14
                            Grassy,

                            Do you drive vehicles that have the minimum pollution and C02 footprint possible?

                            I just leased a 2015 Golf TDI wagon for my parts vehicle. Using about 5L/100km diesel with minuscule Urea consumption. Does not use/burn oil between changes. I leave the pickup parked when ever it is possible to use a smaller parts wagon.

                            Have you done everything possible on your farm... or could I see the black smoke rising from your equipment from far away... as was the norm 15-20 years ago?

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                              #15
                              Tom! I drive an Accord for parts. CHEAP. EFFICIENT. Get strange looks though when I pull up beside a one ton with a guy in it picking up a few guards and bolts. You should see what I can fit in that thing! lol.

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